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Man flees China by riding jet ski hundreds of miles to South Korea
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Like the US?
Are there many people from the US seeking asylum in other countries or migrating at high numbers?
Snowden
Less in fear for his life, and more in fear of jail time. Which he shouldn't have had to fear, don't get me wrong. But there's still a big difference in scale between fleeing jail and fleeing death.
I too would flee in either case. I think being robbed of your freedoms and death are pretty similar. Though I agree with jcit.
For violating the espionage act? The Rosenbergs were executed for that. US psyops truly out in force.
There was Snowden , alghtough other than that there wasnt that many cases.
There will be soon. The entire west is quickly becoming uninhabitable.
I might be off base, but your comment has the feel of a "gotcha!". Yeah, America certainly qualifies.
Edit: Perhaps work pointing out that I'm not the first person you replied to.
American, don't really disagree
I mean yeah America might be a shit hole but at least you can always get your passport go to the airport and leave
"The US State Department estimates that 37 per cent of the population has a valid passport" according to the Telegraph. There's also the question as to how many people can afford a flight anywhere. A theoretical freedom to have the ability to do something is great, but many Americans lack the ability to exercise those rights.
This is not a what-aboutism but rather a more fundamental conceptual separation between the negative liberty and positive liberty. The US and other Western countries like the UK are better at one than the other to varying degrees.
How is it the govt's fault that so many Americans are self absorbed to the point they have no interest in ever leaving their home country?
Did you not read the comment you replied to?
Dude didn't mention much of anything about if people are interested in leaving. They mostly said we're too damn broke to afford a plane ticket even if we wanted one.
There's 2 parts to that comment. Percentage of population with a passport, and number of people who can't afford it. I wasn't debating the 2nd one, though I probably have quite a few things I could say on that point.
The first point however, relates to the practically-a-meme about how many Americans have no interest in ever leaving the states even for a brief holiday, whether or not they can afford it.
There's no point in getting a passport when you know you're too broke to afford a plane ticket my dude. The two issues are heavily correlated.
I’m genuinely curious about the part of how many can afford flights. If anybody out there have any stats on that I would greatly appreciate it.
For a start:
My assumption would be that if you barely afford food, a flight would be out the window too.
As ever Wikipedia is a good resources to further information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States
This bit in particular sticks out: