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[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm kind of blown away that 88% of Americans have flown on an airplane. If everyone is so broke, how are they affording to fly? And people just don't care about the environmental impact? I've never flown, and I can't imagine I ever will.

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This is a fairly disconnected statement "ever" includes

  • discount fares

  • regional flights

  • vacations taken as a kid

  • flights paid for in whole or in part by parties with more cash

  • saving money for a long time

  • flights paid for when one had a better financial position or after a windfall

Generalistically people are poor because they are thousands to tens of dollars per year underneath where they would need to be to be middle class. For instance earning 20,000 per year less than a middle class family x 20 years = $400,000 less Whereas you are wondering how people can possibly be poor because they had $350 once ever. This is like those weird fucks who think people who have smart phones can't be poor.

Also worrying about the environmental impact of poor people flying once back in 1995 is ... probably moot.

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 weeks ago

I did some more digging. 52% of Americans have flown in the past year, including 60% of 18-24 year olds. 70-75% of those flights were for leisure travel. (https://www.airlines.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/A4A-Air-Travel-Survey-Key-Findings-18Mar2025.pdf) So I'm still confused - I hear all the time from young people that they can't afford necessities, that they're one paycheck away from being homeless, that they'll never own a home - but they're able to drop an average of $2k/year on vacations? (https://www.chime.com/blog/average-cost-of-a-vacation/) Make it make sense. Seven years of vacations would be the a down-payment on the median home price. I didn't take a vacation until my mid 30s because I was trying to ensure that my money went to life stability, so it's just kind of a head scratcher to me that people are so loose with their money while knowing that it could very easily make them homeless.

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Let me help you with some math and logic. If 52% of people have flown in the past year and 70% of those flights were leisure then 0.52x0.7 = 0.364 or 36.4% flew for leisure in the last year and 63.6% did not.

Presumably the 2/3 who didn't fly for vacation also didn't spend 3000 and change which is hint just what a bank told you it should cost not how much people especially poor people are actually spending. There is a massive disparity between the haves and have nots in America.

Tldr: they aren't living paycheck to paycheck because they spent 3000 they are doing so because shit is expensive. People also aren't poor because they eat too much avocado toast.

[-] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

America is big and it doesn't have high-speed rail, so if you need to go to a different state the only options are flying or driving for 56 hours.

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