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If we had to torture and murder millions of innocent children to stop global warming would that be okay? (thelemmy.club)

submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by DominatorX1@thelemmy.club to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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EDIT Ok so it's just the trolly problem.

EDIT2 : AHA War Games 1983. "The only winning move is not to play." (We might call this the final product of a lot of smart philosophical digestion, because it's a famous movie). There's always the perfectly valid option to ditch the riddle. (Because maybe the riddle is dumb, or maybe the riddle is no better than a thousand others, utilitywise )

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[-] Pratai@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago

China isn’t capitalist and is factually the largest contributor by far to global warming across the globe. Sure, the US is second on the list, but after that, it’s quite far down before capitalism appears again.

Capitalism may suck, but it dilutes the water to pin nonsense like this on it when there’s actual arguments against it that merit real consideration.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

China has the most people within its borders. Your logic seems to imply that dividing China into say 10 different states would solve the problem. A much better metric is per capita.

[-] Pratai@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago

per cApiTa!

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Per capita it's not, by far it's not.
Ever wondered why it has such emissions? Because it produce literally half of everything produced in the world, for usage of both you and me and everyone else. Sourcing of emissions by consumption make it way worse for west. Why? Capitalism, imperialist countries consume far more.
Historical emissions. Wow. Even worse picture for the west. They don't get to deindustrialise then whine about China's emissions. Why? Capitalism again.
Outsourcing production to cheaper countries isn't ecologically friendly move. Capitalism again.
China is the only country which consistently rolls out ecological initiatives on a systemic level, US dismantle even their own poor as shit regularions and euros set up the emission market and are trading it, pretending it's meaningful. Capitalism again.

[-] Pratai@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

lol… per capita. Apologia at its finest.

“China is perfect!” - said the communist.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wow you managed to make a complete illiterate and bad faith dumbass of yourself in just two sentences. You should repost that to some reddit main, maybe you would get some reward.

[-] Pratai@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

It’s not surprising that a wannabe-communist wouldn’t know what apologia means.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Can't you even flame on topic? Pathetic

[-] Pratai@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Care to repeat that in English??

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