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China Shuts Down OnlyFans, Calls It a Threat to National Morals and Social Order
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It doesn't seem like you read anything that I posted other than that first line you quoted, which you then extrapolated into a long thesis I never made. Most of your response has nothing to do with what I said and some of it assumes I hold a position completely contrary to what I actually did say.
I am not only skeptical of this, I think it is ridiculous. Of course exploitation can exist without the victim's awareness, that describes most forms of exploitation.
What do you think I was saying with my multiple comparisons of sex work to other forms of labor? Seriously, I think you are replying to a comment someone made in your head, not to the one I posted.
You don't? Well, first of all, be specific about what you mean by social equality. But do I want sex work to be treated as the work that it is? Yes, I do, and so should anyone who cares about the well-being and empowerment of working class people.
The cold hard reality is that low-wage so-called "grunt work" is looked down upon and viewed negatively by society. That doesn't make it so nor does it mean that as Marxists we should ignore the struggles of people doing low-wage work. In fact it would go against Marxist principles in a very fundamental way.
What are you even talking about?? The vast majority of revenge porn is not "outing" someone as being a sex worker. For the most part, it has fuck-all to do with sex work. It is private photos taken by regular people any profession regardless of what they do for work that are then made public, usually but not necessarily by an angry and unscrupulous ex to hurt them by violating their privacy. Revenge porn would exist and be a problem completely independently of whether or not sex work even existed within a society, and depends only on the viewing of sex (and usually women's sexuality in particular) as a vulgar and shameful thing.
All the more reason that as Marxists we should struggle to rectify those problems so that sex work can be treated as the work that it is.
My original comment was about whether or not sex work is part of human nature and therefore inevitable and necessary. I don’t agree with that. Communism would revolutionize not just the conditions of work, or the distribution of wealth, but the nature of work itself would change. There might be people trading sex for other things within a communist society, but its character would be completely different because not embedded in class society nor generalized commodity exchange. This isn’t some random tangent or extrapolation, it’s the point of my original comment, and I did a bad job seamlessly switching between an abstract discussion of communism and the more concrete situation with China banning OnlyFans.
I agree with most things you said, and disagree with parts of it / how you read my comment, but I don’t have the energy to tease those apart, so I’ll just leave it. Genuinely sorry if I made some insensitive arguments, I’ll reflect on it some more