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[-] AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de 83 points 5 days ago

We homeschooled our kids for non-religious reasons. Most of the commercially available books, materials and curriculums were Christian oriented. While I am a Christian (although not a conservative) I found some of the materials just flat out intellectually insulting, factually incorrect, extremely biased (without the benefit of scriptural justification) and the above example is far from the worst of what I saw. It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it.

[-] trk@aussie.zone 5 points 5 days ago

It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it.

But also;

I am a Christian

How do you reconcile these two viewpoints?

"It's all bollocks, but I still believe it."

[-] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 21 points 5 days ago

There's nothing fundamentally christian about the text in the picture above, it's just nonsense propaganda. The whole science vs religion thing is frankly bollocks too - science shouldn't be arguing about religion it's fundamentally incompatible. OP can believe in a god, believe in an afterlife - science has nothing to say on the subject, it's not testable, it's not falsifiable it's got absolutely nothing to do with science.

[-] PokerChips@programming.dev 6 points 4 days ago

I think gp is referring to the fact that there is soooo much in the Bible that defies science that is taken as truth.

[-] AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 days ago

I was thinking about how to reply here in a meaningful way but I think your response encapsulates the core of it pretty well. Lots more I could say, but would lead to long essay and probably of limited interest to the topic at hand.

[-] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 2 points 3 days ago

Ah yeah man, I feel ya. One thing I don't really get is why there's a subset of Christianity that wants to be so combative - like all that needs to be said is "well, yes, that's pretty clever - of course god would do it that way" or "in this we better understand our maker" instead of trying to belittle what is a clearly useful and widely applied modelling tool.

[-] AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

I've observed several possible explanations:

People are taught certain doctrines and will not question those doctrines - ever. If some new information conflicts with those doctrines, then their faith is being attacked.
Some are deeply invested in what a certain doctrine allows or prohibits. Think about the sick rationalizations for slavery in the US back in the 1800s supposedly based on the teachings of the Bible. (Sorry, slavery fails the "love your neighbor as yourself" test). To change their thinking means that they have to admit that they were wrong or give up some privilege or perceived position of superiority.
They self identify with those beliefs and anything that contradicts that belief is a personal attack. Basic arrogance.

From my perspective, the teachings of Christ were about humility. Admitting that you were/could be/are wrong and being willing to change. That's the whole core of acknowledging your own selfishness (sin), moving to repentance (change) and seeking God's help in that process. Being combative is not compatible with that, in my views.