this post was submitted on 30 Jul 2025
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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
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- Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
- What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
- Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
- Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
- Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.
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Some acronyms you might see.
- PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
- YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
- YDM new - You Deserved More: The commenter thinks you got off too lightly.
- BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
- CLM - Clueless Mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.
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Okay then to get back to the core of the issue and summarize: if you don't want to use something - a feature, a piece of software, whatever, then do not use it? It really is as simple as that.
I was saying that PieFed offers additional capabilities beyond Lemmy. If you choose not to avail yourself of those, that is entirely your choice, and I support you doing whatever you like in that regard!:-) But so too should others have the identical freedom. I am not debating that places such as 4chan (where anything and everything goes) may have merit or not, just that the subject under discussion was whether "Didn't piefed came with built-in echo chamber features", to which I was saying yes sorta but mainly no not really.
Mods on PieFed have one additional option beyond what Lemmy mods have: the latter can only "remove content" vs. "not remove content", whereas PieFed mods have a more middle-of-the-road option where they can choose to not remove content far more often, trusting that the automated filters will remove the content only for those users who have indicated their preference to not see such, rather than force a choice that affects all users one way or the other. To me that sounds like the literal opposite of the "echo chamber effect", from the standpoint of the mods, even though yes users can surround themselves in such a bubble if they so choose.
As too they could under Lemmy as well, requiring a bit of effort to block many users but it can definitely be done, whereas PieFed provides the option to use community-based moderation to achieve the same end, and in the process affects each item of content individually, while allowing users to not have to block other users, and thereby all content from them, to achieve this effect. e.g. I could see an icon for a highly contentious user who receives 10x more downvotes than upvotes, and choose to ignore that fact and respond anyway, or else be more measured in my response, or just read it and continue scrolling.
Think about that last option: I would be able to read the content in this scenario, even if I chose not to respond, whereas if I block the entire user account then I will not even see it in the first place? Blocking is a heavy hammer, whereas user labels are the gentlest of informational resources. Lemmy provides ONLY the option to either block vs. not block, both to mods of communities as well as to individual end-users of one another, whereas PieFed provides many alternate forms of nuance via tools that the users can use, or yes abuse, as they so choose.
More choices = freedom. More exposure of content is the opposite of an echo chamber effect. PieFed provides more choices to allow for more exposure of content than Lemmy does, which only offers the removal/block features without the nuances that PieFed allows for.
It's quite simple.
Each person is an individual, with their own sets of values.
Piefed is only one, if those rules federate (I'm not sure about this) in all piefed there only "one" community.
If you are inline with that community you'll be very happy with the "community" moderation.
If you are not inline you will not be happy.
Only happy people who is inline with community moderation will stay, because, why stay in a place that you don't read people you like and other people cannot read you. So then there's the echo chamber.
If for you the echo chamber is a feature, as it seems, then just admit it. I think we are down to the fact that "echo-chamber" is a name with bad connotations, and thus the pushback. We can give it another name "hideous-free chamber".
But at the end is a space where you are only going to communicate with people that agree with you. If you like that space then go to that space, it seems that you think that's positive "not having to be blocking all the time and letting the system block for you". If you are inline with that system then, as I said, you'll be happy there.
But don't sell it as what it's not. It's not a place where diverse opinions could exist, by definition. Only the majoritarian opinion could exist there, by design.
I get an issue, because it seems like you are saying that in piefed each person can moderate then there's "more different moderators", or something like that. But it's not, as all moderation, votes, are pack together and there's only ONE moderation, the moderation of the majority.
At the end, time will tell. Piefed do exist, and it's rolling. It's just a matter of giving it time and seeing if the place is more diverse than lemmy or not. Lemmy it's quite diverse, it's a hard objective, most people here don't even agree with Lemmy devs, and there are distinct groups in distinct instances with very diverse values (in fact I get the feeling that piefed was mostly created to separate themselves from one of those groups), let's see of in a couple of years there's such diversity in piefed. I don't know how it's going to be possible, as people who would have diverse opinions would be affected by the automatic moderation feature and will promptly leave the space, but let's see.
I presumed too much, my apologies. I thought you were talking about the "echo chamber effect", which is a topic of much contention among people who discourse about social media platforms. If you were simply saying that people like what they like and do not like what they do not like, then yes, that much is true - although in that case I am not sure why it needed to be said? - although even there, PieFed allows for more options to moderate such than Lemmy does, while remaining the same in other ways. But I am not trying to push you into anything that you do not want to know about.