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Nukes are way scarier than you think
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You're probably right, but as long as it helps remind people that we're all fucked if a nuclear war starts then it's a net positive in my book.
That's now how people perceive propaganda like this. They don't stop and think introspectively. They don't think, "wow, nobody should have nukes" or if they do then they don't walk away with any plan of action to pressure their own governments in the west to disarm. There is no call to action.
What is is meant to do is make you scared and impotent. Then when the time comes for action to be taken on your behalf you think, "this is getting rid of some nukes and that's good." So you end up saying some lib-ass shit like, "well I don't support the USA but isn't ensuring that Iran doesn't have nukes a net good? That's why I support bombing them." In the end this doesn't make the world safer from the nuclear threat. Instead, it makes us less safe because it ensures that countries understand that acquiring nukes is the only way they can ensure their sovereignty because not even the citizens of the western aggressors will oppose aggression.
I'm still hopeful this stuff will at least remind people that they don't want to end up in a nuclear war scenario.
It did. And they went on to support the bombing of Iranian nuclear sites, which puts us in greater danger of a nuclear war scenario.
What I want is something that stops people from supporting western aggression against developing nations who have nukes or could develop nukes. This not only does not accomplish that but actively does the opposite.
From what I've seen, vast majority of people were against bombing Iran, including most of the MAGA base.
no, they werent. they voted for a guy who has been virulently anti-iran and has bombed iranian officials and has alluded to bombing iran and surrounded himself with people who are open about the desire to bomb iran. whatever they say about it their actions are absolutely and unmistakably "bomb-iran". they were 100% for it. and all of that is around the fear mongering over iranian nuclear weapons and preventing iranian procurement of them, something videos like this fuel
Trump literally ran on ending wars platform. While anybody with a brain knew this was not happening, his base certainly expected it.
this platform was absolutely under the auspices that bombing iran to prevent nuclear proliferation was part of it
they are two separate things and were always presented this way by the trump camp
HE ALREADY BOMBED IRANIANS IN HIS FIRST PRESIDENCY i cannot stress this enough and also said he would do so again this was no secret and his base absolutely knew he was going to do this fuck on my street they set off fireworks when he bombed iran all the little trump flaggers were out with bottle rockets and sparklers
Again, it's very clear that his base wanted isolationism, and they're now very upset at him for bombing Iran. I don't know why you're unable to acknowledge this basic fact of the situation.
They did not and they are not. I'm not debating this, I'm telling you. They supported him and his cabinet being open about wanting to bomb Iran leading up this. They supported him and his cabinet when he bombed Iranian officials in his first term. They still support him and his cabinet after this. They are supporting him in his continued threats against Iran. Whatever it means for them to be "upset" in regards to this it does not translate to any opposition to his actions past, present or future with intent to bomb Iran. I don't even know what you mean by it. They lit fireworks in my neighborhood right afterwards in the suburbs of west Florida where there is no shortage of Trump supporters. Were they fireworks of anguish? Were they so very cross at him? No, of course not. I have not come across a real world Trumper that thinks the bombing of Iranian nuclear sites was a mistake. Those people are outliers and their discontent has no call to action and is therefore meaningless in the realm of politics where they will vote for it again and again. Call me a Calvinist if you must: only actions matter.
What are you even talking about here. Carlson ripped Cruz apart over attacking Iran, he's as prominent as it gets. It's very clear that there's a huge rift forming in the republican base right as we speak.
Listen lemmylib.
Cucker Tarlson is not indicative of the majority of Republicans and I don't even assume that his interview is anything more than shit-stirring for views. He's an opportunistic little worm, that one. But even assuming his "anger", if you can even call it that, is transferred to the average Republican it has in no way translated to any loss of support for Trump at all whatsoever. At best a few Republicans grumbled, even more cheered, and they'll vote for it all again. You sound like a delusional lib posting on TikTok "TRUMP IS DONE NOW HIS SUPPORTERS ARE FINALLY TURNING". They are not. Not even a little bit. Not for this.
The only thing I've seen Trumpers even remotely begin to waver on is the import tax shit because it's starting to hit their budget and small business. Maybe the cuts to medicare/medicaid will be another sore point but we won't see that for a while.
Get a clue, jfc.
Ah yes, now I'm a lib when I point out that you're braying nonsense. Let's just look at what's actually happening.
Get a clue, and stop embarrassing yourself here. jfc.
The problem with this discussion is that his "base" is being treated as a monolith when the fact of the matter is there are both significant numbers of isolationists and warhawks who are diehard Trump fans. I don't know what the breakdown is for the percentage of each one, but I think it's probably safe to say that the majority of Trump's base doesn't care about his choice to bomb Iran. They'll cheer him on as being tough for uhmuricah when he does drop bombs but pretend they always said they're "against unnecessary war" when he babbles his isolationist rhetoric.
Most of his base is vastly more concerned with his backtracking on his promise to release the Epstein files than they are about Iran.
From what I saw the fact that he failed to pull out of Ukraine and started bombing Iran did rankle a lot of maga, including very prominent ones like Carlson. They also connect this all to Epstein and Israel now as well. It's all become one huge betrayal for the people who thought he'd stop the wars and drain the swamp. There was a good interview on the whole thing with Max Blumenthal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMr_dE7KDY0
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