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when i first heard about the male loneliness epidemic i was like oh yeah close camaraderie and bonding between men is often discouraged in favor of competition or, if not discouraged, at least filtered through a lens of individualism that precludes deep connections. and then i learned what people meant by it (men arent getting laid) to which i say skill issue

to all the men out there not getting laid: try less hard to get laid and try more hard to be an enjoyable and relaxing presence

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[-] blarghly@lemmy.world 150 points 2 days ago

I mean, the answer is that it is both. Like, not having close friends sucks. And not getting laid sucks. And both are valid and legitimate things to complain about.

Like, honestly, the "skill issue" take is super toxic. It's basically the same as telling a poor person that not being rich is a skill issue. The lack of understanding and compassion for peoples' legitimate problems will only radicalize them further.

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago

It's not both because "not getting laid" has nothing to do with the male loneliness epidemic and is not what people mean when they talk about it

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 22 points 2 days ago

It's clearly both. Men who are lonely tend to not get laid, either.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago

Getting laid is an activity that does involve other humans, so it certainly is a method of combatting loneliness. But if it's not as part of a partnership, it hardly does anything for some of the deeper cutting problems that are described as the "male loneliness epidemic", particularly not having anyone to share your struggles with...

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The issue is that for a lot of lonely men (probably most), the issue is social ineptitude, hangups and all the issues in modern life that make forming connections hard. That impacts their ability to form friendships, find romantic partners and to get casual sex.

Some men might be able to get casual sex but not friendships, but I doubt that's true for most.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

For me, while getting laid regularly doesn''t actually solve any of the other problems in my life, it is like an "easy button" for being happy. Things have to be pretty bad for me to get upset when I've had sex in the last few days or expecting it soon. Unfortunately I've never been able to maintain a relationship where that is the case so it ends up having the opposite effect until I eventually end things and go back to being just mid all the time.

[-] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

I'm getting laid regularly and also incapable of joining voice chat with my best friend or inviting them over.

Yes I'm in therapy, it's helping, thanks.

[-] Venat0r@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Also tend to be a less "relaxing presence", creating a bit of a negative feedback loop.

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