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submitted 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) by Rooskie91@discuss.online to c/showerthoughts@lemmy.world

Even if we take into consideration that 90% (out of 25) could be lying (they aren't), that's still ~3 women he assaulted.

Edit: Damn y'all, thanks for that old internet feeling I keep coming back to Lemmy for. Not a girl in sight in these comments.

Is testifying under oath not considered evidence? There have been so many credible lawsuits against this guy for sexual assault. Honestly what are these files going to prove that we don't already have plenty of evidence for?

And lastly, do you have any idea what going after a rich powerful man for sexually assaulting you does to your life? Why the fuck would anybody put themselves through that if they weren't absolutely sure they had a credible case? Some of the plaintiffs in these cases had their lives and their family's lives threatened and disrupted.

Welp, to the bottom with me I suppose.

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[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Questions:

  1. Would you be ok with you or someone you love more than yourself being sent to prison on a false accusation as long as a larger number of guilty people also get imprisoned?

  2. Do you think false accusations don't happen?

I generally take people at their word in my day to day interactions. I'd believe you if you told me something. But I wouldn't enforce laws on people with only eyewitness testimony. Eyewitness testimony has been proven unreliable.

[-] YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

I get that men are terrified about false rape accusations, even though there is an extremely low chance of it happening, they are afraid. When someone talks about sexual assault, in their mind they feel they need to defend themselves by bringing up false accusations because in their mind it will discourage this crime, bring light to real victims, and thus protect themselves. I'm not a man but this is what I've been told. Then you have victims, who simply want their rapist and other rapists to face justice. They often know others around them who have also been sexually assaulted. When they talk about sexual assault and someone else brings up false accusations, it feels like they don't actually care about the victims and just want to soapbox about false accusations, stealing the spotlight. They might even be a toxic part of the manosphere.

The nature of the crime means it is usually the victim and the perpetrator alone and not in public, and the victim is more likely to know who the assaulter is. It can be a family member, friend, partner, etc. There usually isn't much evidence to prove sexual assault. So we have a problem. As you said, you don't believe a hefty amount of these sexual assaults should have laws enforced on them. I don't have a solution, other than a suggestion that people should be more empathetic towards victims. And not ask questions like yours to victims.

questions like these are unproductive

  1. How many rapists are you ok with letting go free so that you or someone you know doesn't have to go to prison for something they didn't do? 1,000? 10,000? Every single rapist? Is it better to let every single criminal go free so that you do not have to go to prison?

  2. Do you think rape/sexual assault don't happen?

[-] Amir@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Is it better to let every single criminal go free so that you do not have to go to prison?

While that is a wild example that will never happen, I'm not a martyr nor planning/wanting to be one, so likely yes, I'd sacrifice a whole lot to protect my own life and willing to bet many others would too if they had to make that choice.

For most, there's no point in making the world a better place by sacrificing your own life, because you won't be around to see it. Yes, something about planting a tree whose shade you'll never sit in...

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