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The US falling is going to absolutely be a net positive for the global south, who is looted and plundered every minute and every day by imperialism. A world without the US empire is one that can actually build itself up.
literally every country stands to benefit from the downfall of the US, except itself, israel and maybe canada
The truth seems to be quite contentious here on lemmy lol 😆
Why not? The US runs on imperialism, the only reason why its economy "works" is because it uses its vast financial capital to subjugate and plunder the global south, and bombs, sanctions, coups, invades, etc any country that tries to go against that. The PRC doesn't function that way, and is a big part of development in the global south.
I don't think you really know what you're talking about. You listed off a bunch of buzzwords, but examined none of them. Tibet, for example, was a feudal, slave-driven country run on torture before being liberated by the PLA. It just sounds like you uncritically take the anti-PRC narrative at face value.
Same with BRI, the PRC does not leave countries with immense debt. Not only do they frequently forgive loans, but they also don't come with stipulations requiring giving up sovereignty like western loans do.
You need to step back and actually research what you're talking about, rather than just taking the US State Department at their word. People objected to your entire comment, that's why it's sitting at 9 downvotes and only your one, solitary upvote. The world would be far better off without the genocidal US Empire.
Classic.
The Dalai Lama was backed by the CIA, and the mode of production was feudalist, relying on slavery and torture. The US backed anti-PRC movements here to destabilize the region, but nevertheless since the PLA liberated Tibet the Xizang autonomous region has seen massive material improvements in key quality of life metrics.
You call it a conspiracy theory, then learn that it's real and immediately leave the convo after defending slavery and theocracy. I can't really take you seriously. Read Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth.
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I think you forgot a few on your list.
(I would add Syria but I refuse to use the al qaeda flag)
Just wait till you find out who designed the Palestine and Lebanon flags. And all the other Red black green white ones.
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The British and French.
I always heard that Sharif Hussein designed the Palestinian flag.
Do you have source for this?
Sharif Hussein led the Western backed "Arab revolt". From yours truly, Syces-Picot and T.E Lawrence "of Arabia." The reason the Middle East is in shambles is because of the divide and conquer balkanization Sykes-Picot made possible. Sharif Hussein was a British agent doing nothing more than their bidding.
Palestinians are flying the flag of the revolt which brought them the Balfour declaration. In which the British gave Palestine to the Israelis. It's comically ironic. Though most of them probably don't know this and it's not really worth it criticizing it.
Almost all of Middle Eastern countries after the fall of the Ottoman Empire have a red-white-green-black flag. And they were colonized by the British. It's pretty obvious which colors they're flying.
I'm familiar with Sykes Picot and the history of the Arab Revolt against the Ottoomans. I'm not sure its totally fair to characterize Hussein as a British agent but I'm open to more evidence on the matter.
If we are being honest, Antoun Saadeh had the most realistic analysis of nationhood in the region of "the Levant": everyone is Syrians basically and has been Syrians for thousands of years. These statelets are just parts of bilad al Sham.
However, I'm pretty sure that after the last century of sectarianism and Sykes Picot, that return is basically impossible now and I know for a fact that many people in "Natural Syria" (or Greater Syria) categorically reject the concept.
At this point in time Palestine is the central struggle for all Syrians, Arabs, Muslims, and justice-loving people on earth. And the flag is a universally recognized symbol for that struggle. So I'm going to respect the flag.
2013 poll about biggest threat to world peace. US won by a majority.
lol good point my friend. good point
You are probably right
I’m not in those countries, and my country depends on US protection, but I want them to crash land on their face.
Germany has been Europe’s most successful nation on a lot of levels. Having a near death experience and a properly guided rebirth can be a good thing.
The outer values of USA are very admirable, but they were taken over by hostile foreign powers that over decades slowly corrupted courts and the two parties, and now most people are noticing the part of the iceberg above the water.
The US has been self dismantling at least since Bush-9/11 but you could make the case that the JFK assassination was the real moment “the deep state” took over and the President became a puppet for the Military Industrial Complex.
The US was founded on slavery and genocide, and to this day is the world's largest Empire and settler-colony. The US wasn't "taken over" in the last 2 decades, it has consistently either been the most evil country in the world, or one of the most evil countries. The "outer values" are just aesthetics sold to keep the brutal system going.
Well that’s the glass half full version. The slavery and genocide is not a monopoly of the USA though. At some point every major power in existence dabbled their feet into that. I mean it’s happening today. The reality is that lots of people inside and outside the US believe those aesthetics, and that’s a powerful thing to leverage when rebuilding a nation.
The New Nuremberg trials will be able to dispense with the evil for hopefully a few generations, until it inevitably will come back.
The US Empire is the world hegemon. It is the country most responsible for current global plunder and genocide. It is still a settler-colony. The aesthetics don't matter, what matters is that it's an empire and runs on imperialism, and the way beyond it is a destruction of the empire itself and a new socialist state in its place.
No need to argue or downvote brother, we are saying the same thing. I’m just saying your socialist state will be more easily digested if it is presented as a continuation of the “dream”.
Not really, actually. Patriotic Socialism is just a way to justify imperialism, it's a far-right ideology.
I think you just want to win arguments of theoretical concepts.
We both want the USA to self implode. That’s the common ground I’ll remember from this little interaction.
Imperialism never needed justification. It’s imperial. Let me know if you need a hand climbing out of your rabbit hole.
There are genuine PatSoc groups like the MAGACommunists. The idea is to twist leftism into something that retains the US Empire, and a lot of it stems from trying to uplift "American values."
Sorry didn’t see I was on .ml
Not sure what that has to do with anything.