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That's a problem inherent in the fucked up society capitalism built that alienates people. Has fuck all to do with AI.
Bad take. The Always Agrees Machine causing people to intensify psychosis or delusions is a problem tied to AI. Before it was web forums of like people, but the surge in psychosis is new
Bad take. The reason people with psychosis turn to chat bots is because they're completely alienated from society and have nobody to turn to.
The creator of Eliza found that people would sneak into his office late at night in order to have a secret conversations with it. They would say that the chatbot understood them, even those who understood it was a program. He would be asked to leave the room so they could have private conversations with it. He found this to be very alarming and it was one of the reasons he wrote the book. These stories are in that book.
we were falling in love with a chatbot built in 1976? things are so cooked
Have you considered that these people are a product of a society that's deeply alienating by its very nature?
Sure but the argument is that we shouldn't be so quick to accept technology that has negative consequences. This thread is all about job layoffs and loss of positions for those first entering the labor market because of AI speculation and labor replacement for low productivity tasks. This specific technology has consequences and maybe we shouldn't be so quick to fervently accept it with open arms.
One big theme of the book is we have a moral obligation to withhold labor from developing technology that uniquely benefits governments and large corporations. Similarly, you're defending the using ai to 'stylize text' even though it is disproportionately benefiting a fortune 500 news firm and hurting new labor entrants. The technology is not neutral and which side you are on?
I mean any new technology can have negative consequences in a dystopian society. My point is that we should focus on the root causes rather than the symptoms.
What's the clear articulatable political agenda to address this problem then?
"Hey everyone, don't use this stuff that you think makes you more productive at work." Lmao
I hoped the takeaway was to not evangelize the tech because it hurts people and withhold your labor from furthering this type of work, rather than "don't use it". People no longer have an option with not using it, the expectation of productivity has gone up and it's either use it or be replaced by someone who will.
If someone wants to use an AI video editor to make rough cuts of socialist agitprop that they couldn't otherwise afford to make solo, then I would encourage them to do just that. It's better than the alternative, burying our head in the sand and cedeing that ground to some right winger. It's just a tool.