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Of course, it could have gone differently. Putin's mother could find a different lover and the world would look differently. Putin's mother is therefore one of the causes, just like the infinite amount of other factors.
What you're doing now is the equivalent of analyzing why a certain woman got raped. Factor 1, she's single, no husband to protect her, factor 2, she went to the club, factor 3 she wore a short skirt .... You're desperately trying to analyze the "factors" to shift the attention, and the blame from the rapist.
"So could the woman do something differently to avoid being raped?"
Again, victim blaming.
And the "de-nazification", de-militarization, ceding Kherson and Zaporozhija Oblast, no NATO or other protection. You end up with a rump state just like Czechoslovakia after Munich decree, helpless and ready to be re-invaded (March 1939).
my god you're daft.
Sorry it didn't work out, your manipulation tactics are just too easy to see through.
fr fr you got me there, I'm so owned lmao
This war would happen with or without putin, the war is due to the collapse of the soviet union, the far right Ukrainian coup, and the Ukrainian government bombing their own people for almost a decade.
There was no bombing in Ukraine at all until Russia invaded Ukraine.
Also, who would have guessed that a Stalinist cares about civilians, lol.
I usually don't link wikipedia because I assume it's beneath the level of interest and knowledge of people on forums, but you clearly have some homework you need to do. So here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas_(2014%E2%80%932022)
You must have some problem with basic logic - the whole thing started with a Russian invasion of Crimea and Donbas in 2014-2015.
directly from the wikipedia page:
Come on, study a bit. Have another one. When did this whole thing start again?
Your quote confirms that Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. Still problems with logic?
And nothing happened before that that involved people being killed?
You mean how Yanukovich's snipers have been shooting the protesters at the Maidan square? Yeah, sure, that one as well.
Cool, now it seems you're up to speed and are now aware that Ukraine already existed before 2022 and that it didn't all start because of Russia randomly. Now read these too.
fire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odesa_clashes
snipers: https://brill.com/view/journals/rupo/8/2/article-p181_5.xml
Do your thing, reply guy!
Very sad event indeed. But I don't know what's your point. Are you trying to justify a war which killed tens of thousands of people by an unfortunate event killing 48 people?
I assume you didn't read the second one, about your claim over the snipers. Go back and read again. And who started the Donbas war?
Katchanovski is known for his pro-Russian bias and his work isn't accepted by mainstream scholars.
Mostly Russian "vacationers".
Please elaborate on what's wrong with the article. Proclaiming "biased bias" and quoting mystical nameless "mainstream scholars" ain't scientific.
And also explain who those Russian vacationers are who managed to singlehandedly declare two independent republics and a separatist movement. Might as well give me your Fantasyland timeline of the war against the DPR and LPR, because you are quite vague in everything you say and I can't read your mind.
I myself am not an expert on the subject, but other experts don't seem to accept his work.
How about you study what happened yourself? Read e.g. Hybrid Warriors which is not a bad account on the events, even though it's also Putin apologetic.