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[-] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

China's growth is done when it's growing GDP at 5% yearly

Actually the more concerning part about this is that China is growing at 5% but unemployment has barely gone down and there is widespread consumption slump.

China’s not going to collapse like some Western propaganda is saying, but there are fundamental and structural issues because if the economy is growing and the people aren’t experiencing a better life and an increase in purchasing power (in fact, the opposite is happening), and this lack of optimistic outlook from the average people feeds into a vicious cycle where even less people are willing to spend their money to stimulate the economy. A deflationary spiral. All of this is making China more dependent and vulnerable to external conditions, as the failure to kick start the internal circulation means the failure to develop a domestically resilient economy.

There is no point downplaying or denying this though even if you’re pro-China, because eventually you will (and many pro-BRICS commentators on twitter already have) get slapped in the face by the Chinese state media eventually acknowledges these problems.

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

I've been seeing rumbles about China looking to "internationalize" the RMB, which if true, makes me wonder if they are learning any lessons from the west and its history with internationalizing the dollar. Have you seen anything similar? I don't recall where I was reading that idea.

[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 5 months ago

I think your taking that the wrong way. China isnt trying to force other countries to trade in their currency with eachother. Just if they trade with China then China would prefer they use RMB. Thats a key difference. Being the Global Reserve Currency is not just being used for international transactions. Its normal to use a nations currency when trading with that nation. What the US did was making other nations buy USD to trade with the Saudis for oil.

From what ive seen BRICS is looking to do a gold backed global currency to replace USD. So you wouldnt see the same value propping up, and money printing in that case. Which is what the US did. Using international demand for dollars to allow them to print more of them for their own use without inflation pressure.

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

Ok, that was my underlying assumption. It feels like what BRICS is attempting to do is implement a version of Keynes' International Clearing Union (something America rejected in the 40s) and reserect a gold-backed monitary system for international trade. In some ways they're trying to roll back the clock and attempt what could have been if the world decided to collectively reject America's notions at the 1944 Bretton Woods Conference and side with Keynes.

[-] stink@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 5 months ago

I know they've been giving out loans in USD and getting payment back in RMB. Specifically Saudi Arabia was one of them

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