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[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

decentralized apps, fediverse

Those apps and / or the fediverse itself would get sued into the ground and shut down one app or server at a time. There's nothing stopping any Governments authorities from going after servers inside their borders and there's nothing stopping them from "harmonizing" identity verification restrictions among other countries. They've already done it once with Intellectual Property law.

This push to de-anonymize the Internet isn't new either. Microsoft started this back in the oughts with their Passport / Digital-ID program. Google and Meta, along with others, long ago launched their own versions and it's why you can sign into so many websites with a Google or Facebook account.

It's generally referred to as IdP and now that the Internet has been fully corporatized, with minor holdouts, you can bet your bippy that the days of anonymous access are ending.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

If only there was a non-commercial, decentralized way of doing the same thing we are already doing. Perhaps make it free too. Hmmm

[-] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

You'd need to decentralize the Internet itself. Good luck with that one...

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

What do you mean by that? Most of the infrastructure that makes up the internet is owned by like 6 companies.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago
[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

So do a million different forms of encryption. That doesn't make the infrastructure any less centralized. If the people who own the fiber decide to only allow pre-approved types of traffic to cross their networks then it doesn't make any difference what sort of protocols exist. Building free cross-country or subsea fiber routes is not economically viable and the internet doesn't exist without them.

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

That's a very different story than requiring I'd for some websites

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

Please look into how i2p works. It’s not just some form of encryption.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Please explain how you can bypass carrier enforced traffic shaping policy.

From geti2p.net:

I2P's protocols are efficient on most platforms, including cell phones, and secure for most threat models. However, there are several areas which require further improvement to meet the needs of those facing powerful state-sponsored adversaries, and to meet the threats of continued cryptographic advances and ever-increasing computing power.

The people involved in the project you're referring to acknowledge that governments can, by influencing carrier policy, disrupt and subvert the project's intended function. Why then are you implying they are incorrect?

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 week ago

You are arguing a different point here than you were above and I’m not going to entertain the misdirect.

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Last time I checked, the p!rate bay still exists. In fact there are many of them. Because the website itself is open source. The same could be done with any other site. If one gets taken down, two more pop up in it's place.

[-] fuzzzerd@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

While true, most sites do not have the fame of the pirate bay and will not see anywhere near the same number of fans hosting remakes, even if the source is available.

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