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[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 68 points 1 week ago

Hell no. Just use decentralized apps, fediverse etc. It's not about "protecting" children. It's about full control and power. So don't give up.

[-] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It’s about the information vacuum. Now every service will get your ID or photo, giving them both age and a whole sort of other metrics to build a profile on you. And yes, Lemmy.ca doesn’t know that about me.

[-] TheMonk@lemmings.world 9 points 1 week ago

I gotta be honest I thought I’d never be able to quit Reddit. But it was a lot easier when I just did it. If this shit becomes the norm, I’ll back out of a site first time they try that shit and block the site. Maybe I’ll just have to stop using the internet. Wouldn’t that be a net positive on my life. You made me do this, capitalism.

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[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

decentralized apps, fediverse

Those apps and / or the fediverse itself would get sued into the ground and shut down one app or server at a time. There's nothing stopping any Governments authorities from going after servers inside their borders and there's nothing stopping them from "harmonizing" identity verification restrictions among other countries. They've already done it once with Intellectual Property law.

This push to de-anonymize the Internet isn't new either. Microsoft started this back in the oughts with their Passport / Digital-ID program. Google and Meta, along with others, long ago launched their own versions and it's why you can sign into so many websites with a Google or Facebook account.

It's generally referred to as IdP and now that the Internet has been fully corporatized, with minor holdouts, you can bet your bippy that the days of anonymous access are ending.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

If only there was a non-commercial, decentralized way of doing the same thing we are already doing. Perhaps make it free too. Hmmm

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[-] belit_deg@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Also apps that don't need servers. Switched to this for staying in touch with family p2p, works surprisingly well https://keet.io/

[-] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

If this happens they should check ID at church too seeing as how children are much more likely to be abused or groomed by someone there.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Fuck that. The future fucken sucks.

[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 1 week ago

I'm literally now playing ps2 games on my modbo chip ps2 slim.

[-] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Glad I got a decent Xbox 360 collection.

[-] commander@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We're heading back to the dreams of the 90s with people running websites on non-standard ports and DNS (new rinky dink decentralized DNS?). Take a performance and usability hit for the return of a more decentralized Internet. Probably still more usable than the early internet with all the lessons learned and tools available to modern developers. We can also bring back the term: web master

[-] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

There are already far more people in raw numbers on various federated/non-commercial/self-hosted/indie web stuff than there ever were on the early web- it just takes a little effort to find it.

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah I find that so annoying.

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[-] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

If it comes to Lemmy, I quit. I'll go touch grass all day, I don't mind.

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[-] jaykrown@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

No it's not, maybe for some mainstream websites. Saying the "whole internet" is clickbait hyperbole.

[-] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They mean most of the internet for most people
Only the vast socially relevant parts of the internet

[-] laserjet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

elite nerds who use lemmy will be able to circumvent

if the snobs are fine, why care?

those people kvetching about how the endless September ruined everything will have their wish

[-] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Australians will soon be subjected to mandatory age checks across the internet landscape, in what has been described as a huge and unprecedented change.

Search engines are next in line for the same controversial age-assurance technology behind the teen social media ban, and other parts of the internet are likely to follow suit.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-11/age-verification-search-engines/105516256

[-] TommySoda@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And as soon as that happens, I'm out. I'd rather just opt out of the modern internet. I already have to deal with my information getting leaked from various different services at least once every couple years it seems. I can change a credit card or a password, I can't change my ID.

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[-] zer0bitz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago
[-] quant@leminal.space 3 points 1 week ago

Is that project still alive? Their git repo hasn't been updated in years.

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[-] ashenone@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

Good bye corporate internet. I won't miss you

[-] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

Whever this happens, fuck this shit im out...

[-] theherk@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

If that isn’t already shorthand for “whenever, wherever, whatever” it should be.

[-] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

They intend to tie a name to every keystroke

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[-] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Can you have age verification and still be anonymous on the Internet? (Fixed fukted typo)

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

the fuck happened to you at the end there

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Sounds like they're asking about anonymous amicable anuities, and the answer is no, those are regulated by the SEC (or whatever investment governing body in your area), so you can't legally buy an anuity anonymously, even if it's amicable.

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[-] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 5 points 1 week ago

I think we need to organise a massive campaign for people to cancel their entire Isp for at least a month, I'm betting all this would get reversed almost overnight.

Anything but that I fear they win and we all end up on the darknet.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hahaha

Good luck doing that.

People can't even delay their non-essential shinies to make a statement against price gouging/raising bullshit.. You think they're gonna willingly sacrifice something like internet? for a month?

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[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

Google already changed logged out YouTube to a single row of recommendations and a button to login on roku and Android shield when it used to look like the logged in version just a couple weeks ago. Probably the kick I needed to get off, mostly just using it for a couple smaller call-in/debate streamers I can switch to a podcast or other version.

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[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's fucking ironic that this article is asking me to register just to read it.

Can was please fucking stop needing accounts to exist online? So fucking dumb

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[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

the simulatenous legislaiton from all countries seems very suspicious of a certain foreign adversary backing such motives. this isnt the first things like this happened. just a hunch.

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[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

The real goal is to eliminate anonymity from the internet.

[-] renrenPDX@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

It’s about control. They can grant you access or revoke it based on your id.

The powers at be hate that they can’t control the narrative as well as they used to so this is their solution.

[-] oozy7@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Remember guys, they cared about the kids and their online safety as soon as Israel started a genocide in Gaza and they lost control of the narrative. But they didn't care at all for the past 20 years when Epstein and his buddies were running rampant.

edit: clarity

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

i2p lemmy is going to be great!

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 week ago

Suppose true, then we'll reduce the use of "the whole Internet".

OK, we won't, no tools yet.

I really love Briar, except it's functionally not quite there yet, and the desktop kind of such application synchronized with neighboring ships, so to say, with a delay-tolerant Web alternative, would be good. Over various links and media.

Anyway, it's not a technical problem, it's a social problem. Not really different from ID checks on the streets and everywhere you go in the city, except much of the city got virtualized. And ID checks on the streets are automated by cameras everywhere and face recognition.

Social problems are resolved in the legal, social, protest, civil war fields.

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