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[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Please explain to me how we can avoid dealing with climate change for the rest of our lives. That was the primary issue I was think of when posting and by far the most hopeless, imo.

[-] into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 days ago

capitalism cannot handle climate change. we will keep drilling until there's nothing left to drill. socialism can at least avoid the worst of it. a better world is out there

[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Totally agree with you that capitalism can't.

There is enough GHG in the atmosphere right now to warm the earth to over 4c above preindustrial. That is not taking into account tipping points. We will be dealing with the effects of climate change forever. I don't know what you envision avoiding the worst of it meaning, but even the best case miracle scenario is horrifying.

[-] into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 4 days ago

i'm not saying that under socialism, we'll all be holding hands singing kumbaya and the seas will go back to where they were. i'm just saying that we can create a world where we can stop shitting carbon into the air