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Remember folks. Fascism has never, ever been put down using words.
Arm yourselves. Help others arm themselves. Train with them and form networks.
Dont forget to buy lots of ammo. Guns dont do much without ammo.
If you've got a gun you've always got at least one shot in it (throwing the gun at the target)!
Especially if it's a Hi&Point. The people's firearm.
Organization is far more important. If the real shit pops off there will be plenty of ammo and guns laying on the ground. Logistics, secure communication, and strong, decentralized organization is vastly more important, and also what is lacking. If there was a real resistance, that's what they would be doing right now.
As an European, I want Americans to fight against fascism, at the same time, it sounds like it would require civil war, and if that happens, then the sharks circling around US would use that opportunity to make some moves. This whole thing makes me uneasy. Y'all need to be smart about this.
It truly truly truly is not far off. We are headed there.
I think you’re all headed to fall in line. That’s where the evidence is pointing.
For real.
That boat sailed in the November 2024 election. Now it is all about prepping, planning and survival.
The US needs to divorce itself. Cut off the cancer and wall it off.
In Francoist Spain the dictatorship collapsed with the death of Franco and while a violent few years ensued, the Spanish Transition to Democracy was (comparatively) peaceful.
Political strength and popular support were far more important than strength in violence.
Moreover, a violent revolution was never achieved without the attendant political and logistical organization. So regardless of eventual character, the method of building a movement remains the same. Unfortunately it's boring, difficult work that leaves the most active most vulnerable to reprisals. Which is why people like Fred Hampton and Harvey Milk and Berta Cáceres are all so important and also ended up with their brains splattered on their beds/office floors etc.
I have never understood how some think that people with guns can withstand the largest armed forces on the planet.
Yeah, that's why there's no more Taliban. Or ISIS. Or Hamas. Or ...
Those things still exist.
Fucking duh, that's his fucking point
The Taliban has Guns and Mountains though, so only the Rockies and the Appalachians stand a chance. The Midwest would get rolled so hard.
They also never relied on social media provided by US-based corporations (and with built-in back doors) for their organization and communications.
Vietnam, North Korea, Cuba and - in the short term - a bunch of Native American tribespeople have also beaten the USA army
The purpose of an armed resistance isn't a direct confrontation with an armed force. It's the death of a thousand logistical cuts. It's bleeding the country's economy dry by disrupting the commerce required to keep daily life running smoothly and crippling the regime's forces by making people afraid to sign up - one way or another. Whether that's neighborhoods chasing ICE out or people finding out where cops and soldiers live and "paying them a visit" in the dead of night. An armed resistance's goal is to simply be too big of a thorn to ignore but too entrenched and evasive to be worth the amount of money and effort it would take to catch them. Even just their existence in the media is a form of warfare. By simply being in the news they show a population that the regime can be resisted, even by just a bunch of people with guns.
Look at Napoleon's war in Russia in 1812 and his massive losses due to poor supply lines, disease, and the Russians scorched earth policy ahead of the fierce Russian winter. Or to the American Revolution, where a bunch of farmers with guns and the financial backing of France became such a thorn in the side of the British Empire that they became one of the most powerful and obnoxious countries of the past two centuries and are the subject that started this whole conversation.
You can turn your guns on the entire country's population, but then what? You're going to have a hard time keeping troops loyal when it's their friends and family on the other side of the gun, and terrorizing the population like that will make it impossible to keep the propaganda machine going. You'd be forced to rule through direct oppression, which would breed more resentment and more people willing to pick up a gun and fight back. Your only hope is to convince the discontent population that opposition is pointless and the true believers that you are right.
Time to check out a history book or two. With that attitude, US would still be a colony of Britain. Or the US would've won in Vietnam instead of getting kicked out by the locals. Granted, it is a bit different without an ocean in between, but it could still happen. Or we could break up like what happened to the USSR.
We'd be better off if we were still a colony. Independence was rally just a larger version of January 6 with equally suspicious symbols.
The real question is how many people you are willing to sacrifice for this. How many cities are you willing to burn down?
Then leave and go suck some monarch dick?
I mean Canada still has the British royalty if that's their kink. Not sure how it would help but I ain't gonna kink shame.
You consider fellatio a kink? I kinda feel bad for you...
With a king, yes it's power play for sure.
Welp you got me
Yeah you’re all sorts of toxic. Exactly how many of my comments are you stalking? I won’t see the rest because I just blocked you.
What a little bitch, Lemmy ain't a big place. His main character syndrome is strong.
Maybe so there is really no way to tell.
Nah that's not the right question. Talking like that makes you sound like a federal agent trying to entrap people. A better question might be who and what stands in the way of helping the people and how can we address those problems? But that is far less attention grabbing and harder to answer.
Same way people with guns stood against us for like 20 years.
And died in the process. By the tens of millions.
And stood.
Vietnam
How many are you willing to sacrifice?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War#Casualties
Long line of US vets in my family and I’ve heard over and over never underestimate gorilla warfare
What you are suggesting is really shared terrorism where both sides keep committing war crimes. Oh, actually, that sounds like any war the US has been involved with so I guess that works.
The fact is it is possible to fight back against a stronger foe and win if it comes to that. Again I am responding to your original comment. I think most sane people stuck in the US right now are aware that we’re living in a tinderbox. To be clear I didn’t suggest anything I just simply stated through anecdotal evidence that it is possible to stand up to a larger force and win. Like everyone else I don’t want harm to come to the people I love but that’s not always something we can choose.
Myself, in defense.
You would not be the only causality.
One hopes.
How many innocents will they take from us if we do nothing?
Who are they?
I'm sorry. I thought we were talking about defense against fascists. Were you against that?
Who are "they"? Who are you fighting against exactly? You're not happy with a small historical bump and are crying about fighting against tyranny. So, who are you going to oppose here?
So you can't figure out who I'm talking about despite that I'm openly stating it? And you'd rather beat that dead horse than any point I make. Cool. No point in talking to you then.
If you can't say directly, then you don't have a position. If you feel the need to attack someone rather than engage, then you are not acting in good faith. "If you don't know then you're dumb" is a fairly narcissistic take.
This is you being unwilling to engage. "It's obvious and the problem is you for not knowing it already".
You don't seem to understand the concept of defense. I've already stated "fascists." If that isn't good enough for you, frankly I don't give a damn. Do you expect me to have a list of names of people to attack? I don't have one because that isn't defense. Do you think the people being kidnapped off America's streets everyday know the names and faces of the masked fascists shitting on their humanity? Do you think the victims of the Nazis knew the names of the men lining them up for extermination? It doesn't matter who they are, only their violent intentions. All I know is that I'm willing to defend myself and others if I have the chance. And I'll almost certainly die, and probably nobody will care. I'm ok with that.
Your question is stupid and pointless. The position you advocate is that of a quisling. I don't owe you anything. Why should anyone engage with your useless, impotent, give-up-and-do-nothing rhetoric?
So what's you plan, huh? Cmon, post it on a public forum because an online stranger said so.