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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by Timely_Jellyfish_2077@programming.dev to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

It feel like we’re losing to Google, day by day. They aren’t killing AOSP directly, but they are making it useless step by step.

Now it’s Google Play Services, Play Integrity checks, installation source checks… more and more apps just refuse to run without GMS. Banking apps? Most of them don’t work. And it’s only getting worse. I run vanilla AOSP on my main profile, no Play Services. I keep GMS only in my work profile for the apps that absolutely need it. But now even some regular apps that don't need any play services won’t work on my main profile anymore. They simply block your from running , like le chat.

Maps is google's most important app there is no way to run without play services. Sure we can use webview or gmaps wv, but they don't provide turn-by-turn directions. Earlier maps used to work without play services, but two years ago, an update stopped it from working. Now that old version is out of date and no longer works.

Google is slowly making GMS very important to run. The problem with GMS is they require to run as system app and has to have all the permissions by default.

Hope EU puts pressure to make google allow apps to run independently without GMS or atleast install them as user apps(like graphene os sandboxed play services).

If we keep going on like this, AOSP can only run fdroid apps in the future.

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[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago

the problem is that google is capable of slurping all of your data and your phone becomes an enhanced avenue for access; the linux phones are the solution to this.

i'm convinced that the "it just works" mantra is the reason why google or apple or microsoft is able to do this sort of asshattery and i can understand why people would want something that simply works.

however, the trade off for this mantra is that you're giving yourself over to a corporation that not only doesn' t have your best interest at heart but has proven will happily sell your control for a penny.

i can also understand why someone wouldn't think that any of this matters and; if you're lucky; it won't matter all, but for the rest of us unlucky sob's (and the people who don't want to put their faith in luck), linux phones matter.

[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I use GraphineOS, it already does that but more secure and with apps

[-] Chulk@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 minutes ago

That's the point of the original post though. Google is starting to make development of these custom ROMs more difficult. If Google ever decided to lock down the bootloader for new Pixels, Graphene would be in a world of hurt. I also use GrapheneOS and love it, but who knows if it will be alive two or three years from now.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 23 hours ago

i was going to do this too, but none of my functioning androids are supported and i expect google to take another step in disabling alternatives.

[-] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 20 hours ago

I also run GrapheneOS, but I'd love to have a decent true Linux alternative that wasn't tied to Pixel phones. Maybe I can even get my headphone jack back.

this post was submitted on 14 Aug 2025
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