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submitted 3 days ago by individual@toast.ooo to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

What's up with this straight up pro-china and pro-russia stuff on Lemmy lately?

It's not even praising the people of China and Russia, but rather their gov directly.

Obviously the states have problems, and the EU to a lesser degree, but they at least have some human rights.

Is this some kind of organized disinformation campaign?

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[-] bobzer@lemmy.zip 1 points 18 hours ago

Let's assume you're correct about US interference in Maidan.

Why do you believe that is an excuse for war, but Russian interference in the Ukrainian state (to the point that their president was a Russian puppet), was acceptable?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago

There's a lot of legwork you have to go to to prove Yanukovych was a "Russian puppet." He sided with the loan that didn't require privatizing Ukraine's safety nets and selling them to the west.

Further, I'm not trying to find excuses for war, but explanations for why it happened. Again, Russia doesn't give a shit about plunder. They just want Kiev to stop suppressing ethnic Russians and for there to be a better buffer along with NATO neutrality. They aren't after financial domination or extraction.

[-] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Not Cowbee, but I want to push back on some more of your what you are trying to imply.

Why do you believe that is an excuse for war

The rest of the world has every right to defend itself against NATO, including when NATO tries to put troops and weapons near highly populated non-NATO-controlled areas, especially when NATO conducts terror attacks.

but Russian interference in the Ukrainian state (to the point that their president was a Russian puppet), was acceptable?

Firstly, what is your evidence for this Russian interference to the point that the president was a Russian puppet?
Secondly, this is at the very least less bad than NATO's interference and subjugation of Ukraine at least on the basis of NATO being by far the most evil polity in the world, complete with conduction of at least one current genocide. (EDIT: And you are yet to present an alternative course of action for Russia, despite being repeatedly prompted to, and despite the fact that your claims have no basis if there wasn't any other serious option for Russia.)

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