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In what possible way are leftists pushing youth towards the right? The opposite is happening, the left is growing rapidly. There is also a surge in the far-right, driven by the US Empire crumbling. You're baselessly accusing the left of being responsible for the right, while sitting on a high horse pretending you're the one that can see reality? Come on.
The far right seems to be winning both the culture war and the political war. This was unimaginable 15 years ago.
The right, liberals and fascists included, have always been in support of the capitalist status quo. This did not change over 15 years. What has changed is that imperialism is weakening and capitalisn is decaying. The left in the US did not do this, capitalism is inducing its own demise and the reactionaries are running to the right while leftists gain strength.
Ahh yes, the demise where it is in place in literally every country on the planet and right wing parties are gaining momentum everywhere. What are you actually talking about?
No? Capitalism is in decay, it's struggling under its own conditions. Socialist countries like the PRC are on the rise. The right-wing parties are mostly rising in Europe and the US, in other words, the imperial core. Outside the west, progressive movements are rising, such as in the Sahel States.
Genuinely curious what you mean by capitalism being in place "in literally every country." Is capitalism just "trade" to you?
If China is the kind of socialism you all are talking about, I'm good.
Why? The PRC is making rapid scientific progress in production, infrastructure, green energy development, multilateral trade, and is wildly popular among its working class for the great achievements socialism has brought them. The large firms and key industries are state run, while the secondary and light industry has diverse forms of ownership from private to cooperative to joint-stock. Already, while being only in the primary stage of socialism, they are surpassing the US Empire.
The PRC's Socialism with Chinese Characteristics is merely one form of socialism, it just happens to be the presently most advanced form of it. Other countries like Cuba have similar but different forms of socialism.
Cuba seems the best example to me. PRV is not a great place for many of it's residents, and certainly not a life I want to live.
Why do you say that the PRC isn't a great place to live, and not a life you want to live? The overwhelming majority of Chinese citizens support their system and believe it's on the correct track, they are by far the most developed socialist country presently.