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You are confidently musing about a hypocrisy that doesn't exist. You saw a meme about it and got duped
Paranoid gun owners are a tiny fraction of the population and they almost exclusively live in red states and vote right. They don't fear authoritarianism, they fear leftwing governments. A blue city getting invaded by a red president is a good thing - as long as the government doesn't try to take their guns, they don't care.
We could discuss this for long...
Fact is enough people in the US voted for Trump and his posse of fascist henchmen.
'Fact is' you are confidently oversimplifying the problem, to an extent not dissimilar from me just asserting baselessly that all Germans simply have a natural predisposition toward anti-semitism.
You are insultingly wrong at a more granular level, because you reject nuance, and also lack specific accuracy.
Further, your rhetoric is that of an annoyed complaining person, not the rhetoric of say... I don't know, maybe constructive solidarity with all anti-fascists everywhere, in a common struggle against a rising tide of global fascism.
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What you dismiss as a 'just joking' stereotype about gunnownership patterns is actually pretty accurate.
There are more privately owned guns than people in the US, but the majority of those guns literally are owned by 'middle class', pettite bougieose, suburbanites, who literally have miniature armories of ten + guns and tens of thousands of rounds of ammunition, who barely ever use them, despite making a huge performative display of being enthusiastically in pro-gun culture.
It is literally just another flavor of 'keeping up with the joneses', of conspicuous consumption, analagous to buying a huge expensive car to try to impress your neighbors.
They are the same people who are NIMBYs, they are the same people that vote against every single mass transit expansion or infrastructure revitalization project by way of some kind of tax increase, they are the same people who own between 1-10 additional homes as small time landlords and drive up the cost of living in a vainglorious pursuit of their own climbing of the social strata, the same people who vote against public education and for govt tax dollars instead being used to subsidize racially/religiously exclusive private education only attainable by the wealthier.
Yes, they cause all the problems they can sometimes identify as reasons why they will 'need' all those guns, which they largely do not know how to use, nor have any realistic scenarios where they would actually be able to make use of their massive stockpiles, much less transport them.
Their entire 'strategy' is destroyed by a wildfire, tornado, hurricane, which they of course also vote to amplify the risk of.
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But, circling around back to the first section:
You also are promoting a self defeating strategy, by choosing nationalism over trying to gain allies, or even just express sympathy toward the tens of millions of Americans that did everything they could to prevent what is currently happening.
You are laughing at all of them just as you laugh at all our local dumbfucks.
Do you want me to just say that every single German that died before and during WW2 was fully and completely deserving of death?
Every civillian, every child, every resistance fighter, everyone killed in a saturation/firebombing of a heavily populated area, every socialist and communist and anarchist who tried to stop Hitler and ended up thrown into a camp?
That is how offensive and lacking in nuance what you are saying is.
After all, 'Fact is' enough Germans voted for Hitler and the Nazis, and willingly and even enthusiastically went along with his plan, therefore they all deserve what they got, no exceptions.
Right?
Wtf? No, I say the amount of morons with guns is way too high and it is people with guns that kill people, so make it hard for people to own guns!
Kapisch?
Also... Now that Trump and his Posse are building a fascist Doctatorship... It is the weaponized Morons that DO NOT use their right to bear arms to prevent those religious hustlers from creating the Forth Reich.
Kapisch?
The entire point is that the weaponized morons ARE the religious hustlers or at least very sympathetic to them, and they always have been.
The weaponized morons ARE the ones joing ICE and becoming the American Gestapo, and they always wanted to.
The fascists here have always been the moronic gun nuts.
The people with the most guns in the US have always been the fascists, the religious extremists, the white supremacists.
It would be extremely silly to expect, at all, to any degree, that they would become anti fascists in the name of universal gun rights.
It would also be extremely silly to think that hundreds of millions of firearms even practically could be removed from society without a massive Gestapo-like force going around and confiscating them...
This has always been the delusional fear of right wing gun nuts in the US, that this would happen to them, and now they are fully onboard with the idea of non rightwingers being disarmed via their own Gestapo that they willed into existence.
It is a kind of 'pre-emptive' strike against a hysterically overexaggerated threat, "we have to do it to them first before they do it to us!"...
... and it is obviously hypocritical because fascists are always logically inconsistent, incoherent, hypocrtitical.
There's nothing to discuss. You parroted a dumb observation you saw in a meme and after getting called out, moved the goalposts
Muricans voted for a dumb president!