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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 105 points 2 years ago

Removing criticism of transphobia because "the evil hexbears" is fucking wild.

Placing anticommunism above transphobia on your priorities list guarantees a slide into fascism. Once you start covering up and defending bigotry as long as the bigots are anticommunists you give the perfect cover for fascists to fuck around in your space. By the time a server owner realises that they've made everyone non-fascist leave (or conform to the culture they create thus becoming part of them) they end up just accepting it because doing anything about it would mean killing the entire community population. Because the narcissistic power of being community owner comes first.

[-] DroneRights@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I agree with you and you're being really correct, but narcissistic is a slur. The origin of the word comes from the disability Narcissistic Personality Disorder. You're obvious talking about neurotypical behaviour, so could you use a different word?

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago

Wouldn't choosing to maintain the fake sense of status that running an online community creates instead of deleting it because of the harm it does or will do definitionally narcissistic? Or is there a requirement here for such actions to be a lifelong pattern?

[-] DroneRights@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

Narcissists are only 1% of the population, yet we see this behaviour from anyone who owns a large platform. Unless you want to present the thesis that people with NPD are privileged because we own all the social media sites, we must conclude that this pattern of behaviour is common to neurotypicals as well.

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago

narcissism doesn't have to be disruptive enough of a persons' life to be a disorder diagnosis. Should we start calling anxious feelings something else because some people have severe anxiety that we label a disorder? petty narcissism isn't the same as NPD and this is the first time i've seen someone try to equate the two.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

I'm not really against moving off the word I just feel a bit odd about it. Like you point out.

I think with anxiety there's a small difference in that it's never used perjoratively. Whereas narcissism is. But I agree with you that if anxiety can be used descriptively for a type of behaviour without meeting the standards for it being a disorder narcisisstic behaviour can be the same thing without meeting the standard.

In the same way anxiety could also be replace with "uncomfortable" or "scared" but this would not be as strong in tone, not really describing the seriousness of the emotion. In this same way narcissism shares that.

Again though, not really a hill I'd die on or anything. It is certainly overused for even incredibly minor things at times.

[-] DroneRights@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Well, slowness doesn't have to be severe enough to be considered intellectual disability, but the R word is still a slur. And tan skin doesn't have to be dark enough to cause racial prejudice, but the N word is still a slur. It seems that from our pre-existing examples, the answer is that if people are going to use "narcissist" as a pejorative it's a slur

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

Again how is anxious not a slur or at least appropriative in your definition, seeing that it follows a very similar pattern of standard use followed by use in medical settings

[-] DroneRights@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Because it doesn't have a pattern of pejorative use. A slur is created when a word is consistently used to express hatred. Hatred of anxiety sufferrers is much less than that of narcissists. It's largely confined to jokes about people being "triggered". Whereas people wish death on narcissists with regularity.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

By analogy, there is a reason that megalomaniac are more likely to be corporate ghouls or sociopaths are more likely to be cops, there is an element of self-selection.

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