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Yeah, let's blame this one on the cops. Not the person shooting into a fucking stand full of people.
Good luck grabbing the one dude who shoved a hand gun back into his jacket while people panic run out of the stands lol.
But the good guys with guns could've stopped them! 🥺🥺🥺
In Oklahoma too. You know there were tens to ~hundred of other people in those stands that were strapped lol.
So if I understand correctly we can't blame cops when they shoot somebody, we can't blame cops when somebody else shoots somebody right in front of them, and we can't blame cops for not shooting white supremacist assholes.
What exactly can they be held accountable for in your fucked up system of thought?
The only "bad" thing cops can do is not take the side of other cops at all times.
How is anything that you said relevant to police magically detaining every person on both sides of a football game to find someone with a pistol? What, did you want them to just grab all the black kids instead lol?
The cops job during a shooting is to kill an active shooter and get help for people shot. There's zero chance they find someone who popped off some shots like that then sucked into a crowd. This isn't a very hard scenario to imagine. Tons of shootings like this go completely unsolved due to nobody speaking up out of no snitching rules and fear of retaliation.
You trolls realize you're talking to someone that's probably far more left leaning than you right? The difference being I don't live online fomenting hatred and division carte blanche.
Not the cops fault, but proof more cops didn't equate to more safety like cops and Republicans want you to think
Don't get me wrong. I think every single one of our first responders are understaffed and mostly underpaid. Cops, paramedics, firefighters, social workers, all of em. This is absolutely one of those cases though that short of there being metal detectors and/or people wanding spectators on entry, jack shit you could do. The public at large hates the fact that some things just straight up aren't preventable. Even more so with gun culture in the US.
People hate feeling like they live in a prison. The solution isn't more detectors and police. The solution is more chances for the poorest among us to find gainful employment. Social welfare programs that let those who can't work great jobs or fell on shitty times lift themselves back up and feel like they're doing something. It's spending money on Crisis Intervention workers so they can go to those mental health calls instead of sending someone who just had to pull dead bodies out of a car wreck.
I work pretty closely with all of them in my field. People complain about cops not having community outreach but all you hear over the scanner is them going from one call to another, non-stop. If you're in a suburb or larger, there's ZERO people on traffic duty too. It's a thankless job most of the time, one that traumatizes you almost weekly, and now people have turned on them HARD compared to when I grew up.
Any time we try to work on the above, Republicans shoot it down even if they ended up being the ones who proposed it lol.