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Lol the boycott worked way too well hahaha

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[-] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The intrusion of ads into these services has me really confused

I thought the economics of Internet advertising were that it’s like, between a 10th and 100th of a cent per ad view and getting someone to spend like $1 ever will completely drown out the value of advertising

And that was years ago! And ad rates have gone down since then because people realized Internet advertising doesn’t work. I really thought we were trending towards services that would’ve been free with ads charging a small fee, not paid services having ads.

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

I'm sure it must be a combination of

  • the people that make ads being pissed off at streaming content not having ads, so that's a missed source of revenue for them
  • streaming services realizing they're leaving money on the table by not having ads
  • streaming services also making some kind of calculation that says the people who subscribe to their service are also the same kind of people who are fine with watching ads

Don't know if it was here on Hexbear or elsewhere, but I remember someone bringing up that before it was easy to avoid seeing ads by just recording stuff to VHS or later saving it to a DVR and fast forwarding through the ads. It was a good point to me, if you're watching your slop on a streaming service there's no way to avoid watching ads except to pay for it.

That's also the same reason every sporting event is getting dump trucks full of money parked in front of their HQ for the broadcast rights, they're the only thing people still watch live.

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

have you ever tried to watch a show with someone who has recorded it on DVR?

the commercial break starts, they grab the remote and tap a button. for the next 30-60 seconds that are completely locked into the visual screen while images flash of cars, burgers, corporate logos, "SALES", sexy models, etc, and they are actively engaged watching for some cue of what they want.

it's like some shit out of Clockwork Orange except completely voluntary. it feels like a step below shouting "i love mcdonalds" or drinking a verification can.

i hate ads as much as anybody, and have dropped services for them being too intrusive, but at least on streaming they give you a timer that says you have 40 seconds or whatever, so you can go refill your mayonaise bowl or grab a jug of Archer Daniels Midland Homestyle Corn Syrup and not have to actively engage in the ultradense subliminal flashcard imprinting parapsychology experiment.

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I've watched shows on DVR before and always thought that was preferable to watching several minutes of ads, but that's also definitely true.

I bet that's why so many TV ads end with a full screen shot of the logo, even if you're fast forwarding you're still gonna see that logo.

[-] mendiCAN@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

yeah, speaking to the annoyance of manually ff'ing thru commercials...if we had the tech to skip songs in the days of cassete tapes we have the tech now to auto-skip commercials but of course its not implemented into dvrs. i know people would pay for the ability (shit, i would pay double) but somehow we're still stoneagin it manually

[-] darkcalling@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

Don't know if it was here on Hexbear or elsewhere, but I remember someone bringing up that before it was easy to avoid seeing ads by just recording stuff to VHS or later saving it to a DVR and fast forwarding through the ads. It was a good point to me, if you're watching your slop on a streaming service there's no way to avoid watching ads except to pay for it.

I mentioned this once, might have been me. I mentioned that for oh 30-ish years people have had time-shifting options and commercial skipping options that started with VCRs and now with streaming and DRM/HDCP plus everything being on demand with the ability to just disable fast forwarding in certain segments you have for the first time no realistic ability to skip commercials. Sure you can watch what you want anytime but we're at real risk upon the removal of the ad-free tiers of being unable to skip commercials for the first time in decades, since home video hit the market which would be a dream for capitalists.

[-] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 4 points 1 week ago

That has changed and video ads becoming a thing has changed it even more. Banner ads back in the day were not something people could be forced to sit through and there was virtually no targeting. Now that they can target certain audiences and essentially force them to watch, ad dollars don't have to be spread so thin and therefore they are able to spend more for any specific ad slot. Realistically though, I think it's to just push people to the higher tiers. If people don't upgrade, then you're getting some ad money on the side, if people do upgrade then great. They view it as money "left on the table". If you're willing to spend one cent more than you currently are spending they view it as their job to capture that.

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