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My sources for the preamble come mostly from here, here, and here.

The thread image depicts Kenyan police, trained by the Zionist entity, in a meeting with President Ruto before being sent to Haiti, sourced from this article.


As has been planned for the last couple years, foreign police officers have been inside Haiti for a few months now. It will surprise nobody to learn that this has not gone very well. Gangs continue to control much of the country, and violence has continued in the form of massacres and forced relocations (approximately 1.3 million). Something like 80% of the capital, Port-au-Prince, is under the control of one gang or another.

The aim by the US was to import 2500 police officers to Haiti from a wide variety of countries. One of those was Kenya; President Ruto had to fight his own country's courts to force this through, and ironically is now apparently considering withdrawing those officers once the UN mandate expires on October 2nd. The issue here is not only the limited manpower (Haiti has a population of 12 million), but also very pedestrian things, like the fact that the officers who arrive don't even speak the language.

The situation in Haiti appears to be a fairly standard operation of American national control, in which both battling sides are being supported by the US in order to create maximum disorganization and prevent a coherent political force from arising and thus threatening their Caribbean interests. While the US funds foreign forces to arrive in Haiti to "control the situation" or similar justifications, the Haitian gangs get their weapons smuggled in from the US itself. That this is happening alongside escalations against Venezuela is obviously not a coincidence - in a world in which American interests are being gradually shrugged off, and where the American state military is becoming rapidly more impotent and unable to dissuade and defeat even tiny states like Yemen, total imperial dominion of their immediate surrounding territory must be ensured by any means necessary.

The police and the gangs are likely designed to be mutually reinforcing, without even much kayfabe of fighting each other. As an example, once the Kenyan police arrived, they immediately began brutalizing anti-government protestors instead of focussing on gang activity. They were trained by the Zionist entity, after all.


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Israel's Genocide of Palestine

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Sources on the fighting in Palestine against the temporary Zionist entity. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
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Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
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Sources:

Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
Simplicius, who publishes on Substack. Like others, his political analysis should be soundly ignored, but his knowledge of weaponry and military strategy is generally quite good.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 45 points 1 week ago

manhattan it is the 1990s. the US military, lacking sufficient numbers of proper APCs/IFVs, is having troops ride in glorified jeeps

manhattan it is the 2020s. the US military, lacking sufficient numbers of proper APCs/IFVs, is having troops ride in glorified jeeps (or pickups this time 'round)

(tbf, there is also the actual reasonable strategic aspect of those better-protected (and thus heavier) vehicles being much more difficult to actually deploy and sustain over on the other end of the world, but, uh... sucks to suck I guess, me personally, I simply would not become the imperial hegemon and just not worry about how the hell do I deploy a whole mechanized division to another continent in order to murder brown people, it's quite easy to not be imperialist actually!)

https://archive.ph/5N6fh

The Army Is Sending Troops Into Battle in Unarmored Chevy Pickups. That’s a Death Sentence, Officer Warns.

The new Infantry Squad Vehicles cannot survive enemy fire—or even carry three days’ worth of supplies, an insider tells us in an exclusive interview.

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Not every rifleman in the U.S. Army rides to battle in beefy Bradley or Stryker armored vehicles—in fact, a growing number of soldiers will soon do so in Chevrolet pickup trucks. So far, the Army is in the process of converting five of these planned Mobile Brigades to fight on foot with the intention of 9–14 units in total. Still, soldiers have to reach the combat zone, so each infantry squad will get an M1301 Infantry Squad Vehicle (ISV) based on Chevy’s Colorado ZR2 Bison. Popular Mechanics anointed the truck the “ultimate mid-sized off-road pickup” in 2018. By foregoing armor; mine protection; weapons; and even a windshield, roof, and doors, the ISV weighs merely 2.5 tons and can seat a nine-man squad (if one of them drives). Soldiers have praised the ISV’s fuel efficiency, air transportability, and ability to negotiate muddy or forested terrain.

However, an Army National Guard officer with over 20 years of experience serving in a unit converting into a Mobile Brigade Combat Team told Popular Mechanics the new Infantry Squad Vehicle’s design is ill-conceived—unable to survive enemy fire, lacking capacity for basic supplies, and pricier than existing, roomier alternatives. But the Pentagon is keen on the new whips. In May, the U.S. Department of Defense canceled most ongoing armored vehicle procurement, including Joint Light Tactical Vehicles (JLTV), Humvees, and Stryker troop carriers, claiming enough had been delivered and that ISVs were the future. Infantry Squad Vehicles may indeed assume other roles, too. The Army has tested air defense lasers on ISVs, while Chevrolet is offering flatbed transport models, a weapons-turret variant, a command-and-control kit, and an electric-propulsion model. ... it retains 90 percent civilian parts—theoretically lowering cost. However, while 2025 civilian ZR2s typically cost $49,000–$60,000, M1301 contracts average well over $330,000 to $370,000 per vehicle delivered. By comparison, recent contracts show costs of $225,000 to $275,000 per Humvee, and $330,000–$400,000 per JLTV. Following initial Infantry Squad Vehicle tests in 2020 and 2021, the Pentagon’s Department of Testing and Evaluation (DOT&E) expressed concerns over high breakdown rates, poor long-range radio performance, uncomfortable seating, and lack of cybersecurity, accessible stowage, firepower, and protection. Accordingly, Chevrolet revised the finalized production model’s engineering, ergonomics, and comms. In 2023, evaluators found the breakdown rate reduced to one incident per 15,000 miles. But DOT&E noted improvements to other cited problems weren’t evaluated, particularly “the [lack of] capability to deliver effective fires, provide reliable communication, and force protection.” But the Army didn’t require those qualities.

That’s why Infantry Squad Vehicles are supposedly meant for delivering infantry just outside combat zones without contacting enemy forces. But if ISVs truly are non-combat vehicles, they’re logistically outperformed by cheaper alternatives in service like LMTV trucks or the M1152 expanded capacity Humvee. Though an M1152 (with limited in-built armor) is 40 percent heavier at 3.5 tons, it matches or outperforms ISVs in key ways when forgoing add-on armor. Despite their non-combat role, ISVs are being attached directly to combat squads much like Bradley or JLTVs with combat capability. That means when the squad dismounts, they must either leave a squadmate in the truck or abandon it. “If the drivers are tied to the vehicles, you have just lost 11 percent of your combat power across the formation,” said the officer, who asked to remain anonymous due to fear of retribution. “If not, [i.e. the trucks are abandoned] how do we evacuate casualties or resupply troops on the line?” He argued non-combat trucks should be pooled in separate logistical platoons so infantry units don’t have personnel tied to vehicles they can’t deploy near the combat zone.

Infantry squad vehicles are also often promoted as being so mobile and stealthy that they’ll evade enemy strikes—again, despite being classed as non-combat vehicles. The Army broadly advocated for similar concepts at the turn of the century—until mines and ambushes in Iraq began killing soldiers in armorless trucks. A soldier famously asked then-Defense Secretary Rumsfeld why troops were forced to “dig through landfills for scrap metal and compromised ballistic glass to uparmor our vehicles.” The Pentagon scrambled to acquire the most heavily protected trucks possible. But the Pentagon now favors unprotected transports again, saying it doesn’t expect to fight another insurgency, but rather plans for scenarios wherein U.S. troops rush to defend its allies from China or Russia. ISV proponents argue trucks transiting through friendly territory won’t face ambushes and mines, and that that long-distance artillery, kamikaze drones, and missiles can defeat light armor. So they argue it’s better for trucks to trade armor for speed to avoid attacks and outrun enemy detection-targeting-firing cycles, or “kill chains.”

The officer didn’t think this theory was realistic. “The ISV cannot outrun or outmaneuver a threat. Every link in the kill chain moves faster than any vehicle on the battlefield,” he said. “You cannot ‘move stealthily’ in a vehicle. Modern sensors are much more capable than our ability to deceive them.” The 2021 evaluators seemingly concurred, reporting that in exercises ISV-equipped rifle companies “did not successfully avoid enemy detection, ambushes, and engagements during a majority of their missions,” were slowed excessively while transiting off-road, and experienced “numerous casualties.” “ISVs would not survive within the 30+ kilometer range of FPV kamikaze drones,” the officer asserted. “They would shred their tires on the artillery shrapnel littering the road leading to the Forward Line of Own Troops. They would spectacularly demine the fields of whatever country we were operating in one device at a time.” (In Ukraine, rocket artillery and drones have been used to sow minefields on supply roads behind the frontline.) And bivouacking the trucks 30 kilometers back would render them useless to the units they’re tied to, he said.

“If the problem is that vehicles get killed easily by drones, I don’t think the answer is packing nine guys into one and trying your luck. We’ve all seen footage of Russians dying in droves driving around in rail buggies and ATVs. Would we be any different?” He observed the loss of just one Infantry Squad Vehicle would overwhelm the capacity of a standard Battalion Aid Station. “That means triage, strain on casualty/medical evaluation, and inability to properly deal with other casualties. And the ISV cannot carry a stretcher without modification [unlike a Humvee].” He believes vehicles near the frontline still require armor and an active protection system that shoot down incoming missiles and drones. “Armor will protect you from fragmentation,” the officer said. Light armor may not prevent vehicle knockouts, he acknowledged, but it still greatly improves passengers’ survival odds.

Still, the officer said he didn’t oppose motorized light infantry broadly. “[Mobile Brigade Combat Team] has far less of a logistical burden, is a better fit for domestic operations [like disaster response], and doesn’t require enormous amounts of money to move to training areas. That said, its ability to be decisive in a maneuver fight is lacking.” He simply felt integration of Infantry Squad Vehicles didn’t make sense, arguing their selection reflected roots in the Special Operations Command and testing by elite airborne units, with little input from regular motorized and mechanized infantry experienced in large-scale conventional motorized operations using available vehicles. “A vehicle that needs modification to hold a stretcher, or carry the basic load and three days of supply is probably not what you want to be looking at for the future of mobile brigades,” the officer said. “We have many vehicles in the inventory that will already accomplish those tasks.”

critical support to US Special Forces ghouls in their heroic effort to mislead the US military into buying a bunch of bullshit that is completely ill-suited for actual war rather than cruising around murdering civilians

[-] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The US Military is always one problem/solution late, during the Afghanistan/Iraq wars they had to rent local people's pickup trucks because humvees were too fuel thirsty to use for ferrying people/gear around large bases

[-] luddybuddy@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

It does seem like this is extremely poorly suited for the kind of wars the US generally fights - ie against guerillas. Squad will drive up to the edge of the 'combat zone' which they've predicted or defined, and either be attacked on the road or return from a suspiciously easy victory to find no more vehicle. I can see it working better for a peer conflict exactly as a jeep is used, but it seems like even in a peer conflict the combat zones are going to be fuzzy and these will be attacked by special forces or by UAVs while they're in 'safe' areas. With those two applications off the table, the only one left is butchering unarmed civilians - the open top leaves a lot of room for small arms fire from all 8 passengers in any direction. All that said I have no idea how wars are actually fought...

[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

but it seems like even in a peer conflict the combat zones are going to be fuzzy and these will be attacked by special forces or by UAVs while they're in 'safe' areas

Yeah, that's the key thing - wars, even conventional near-peer wars, are now much more "porous" - the separation between the front and rear is much less clear than it was, and targets in the rear, as well as troops traveling from the rear to the front, get struck in Ukraine all the time.

And the baffling thing is, the Americans were literally one of the main pioneers in this! The AirLand Battle doctrine they adopted in the late Cold War was all about striking enemy assets as they move from the rear to reinforce the front, that was supposed to be their way of dealing with Soviet/Warsaw-Pact numerical and firepower superiority (at least on the ground, not so much in the air) - by making it so those superior numbers never actually get to fight because they were struck on their way to the battle. And in the years since, this has only become more and more viable as a concept - back then, it was only really the Americans who had a chance of obtaining the air superiority necessary to pull that off, but the greater availability of precision-guided munitions and drones means even poorer countries can now manage such deep-strike capability to a limited extent. In the '90s it would have been inconceivable for Iran or fucking Yemen to actually strike anything in Israel, but here we are.

With those two applications off the table, the only one left is butchering unarmed civilians - the open top leaves a lot of room for small arms fire from all 8 passengers in any direction

As mentioned in the article, it does seem like this may be driven by requirements suited more to Special Forces guys... which are completely inappropriate to apply to the Army at large.

The cult of the operator bringing about the decline of the US military would be pretty funny though. These guys didn't even accomplish anything for all their wanton destruction and murder of civilians, and yet apparently managed to somehow twist their countries' doctrines into shit like this.

[-] pierre_delecto@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

Get serious and start building Hilux technicals

[-] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

We'll be seeing squads weld a steel post and mount M2HBs to the back, going full circle to what irregular armies have figured out decades ago.

[-] lurker_supreme@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

First time I read this I didn't think you meant weld them to a car. I was thinking about troops carrying essentially pole arms with machine guns attached

[-] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

Real 40k hours

[-] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

lol, I was going to make a joke about having to update the Pope Mobile v. Humvee bit from Arrested Development clip. But when I rewatched the clip, it's already an exact match since the fake, not bulletproof, Popemobile that he chooses over the Humvee is just a regular-ass pickup truck susie-laugh

[-] Flinch@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

the US military has deployed new state of the art combat vehicles for troops on the front line

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[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

NGL if we get any footage of troops getting owned in these it will make for a hilarious montage set to American Pie

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[-] VHS@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The US's MRAPs are fucking enormous, heavy and expensive and they only have four seats, so they're using unarmored cars now. Is there a reason they can't have something like Russia's Tigr, basically a SUV with 9+ seats and basic bulletproofing to move infantry squads around in? Hell, Turkey's Kobra even has an angular hull for mine resistance and it still seats 9 and weighs half of what the M-ATV does.

[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Is there a reason they can't have something like Russia's Tigr, basically a SUV with 9+ seats and basic bulletproofing to move infantry squads around in

They actually already have that - while the regular Humvee has more of a typical car layout with just 4 seats (+ potentially one more guy poking out of the top to man the machine gun), there are variants with an extended troop compartment which fit exactly in this SUV-style category with 9-10 total capacity (7-8 in the back plus the 2 regular seats in the front). Some of those are open at the back, pickup-style, and just get a canvas covering, but there do seem to be variants with proper covering in the back, although I'm not sure what the thickness of it is.

Plus, if we want to go a bit further into something better suited for fighting, with a proper armored hull that can be armored much better at less weight (since the hull shape itself is optimized for that, while a regular car layout which has to account for side-doors and windows isn't), basically an American BTR - well, that also exists! The M1117 has had variants with stretched hulls to make them into more of a proper APC:

Going even further back, for something even more BTR-style with an 8x8 layout - there's the LAV-25, adopted in the '80s. The Army was actually planning on buying over 2000 of a variant without a turret (just a .50 cal on the top instead), which would have basically been the Stryker 20 years earlier (and somewhat smaller and lighter, and presumably cheaper), but Congress cancelled the funds for that so it only ended up being bought by the Marines in a turreted variant with the same autocannon the Bradley uses (and interestingly, the LAV actually competed against a predecessor of the M1117 mentioned above).

So both for Humvees being sent into Iraq, and now these completely opened-up pickup trucks without even doors (have fun either cooking or freezing to death when you have to ride this in any harsher climate I guess!), there were already existing solutions for a better-armored vehicle - still wheeled so it would be simpler and cheaper than a tracked APC/IFV, but with a purpose-built hull that can actually provide at least some protection - a concept the Soviets figured out basically right after WW2 (while the 8-wheeled BTR style most people are familiar with comes in the '60s, they had 4x4 and 6x6 ones earlier). The US just dropped the ball with procurement and had to scramble other unarmored vehicles into service.

[-] VHS@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Seems like a no-brainer to reconfigure some HMMWVs rather than buying something new, but what do we know? For the purpose they're using this for you wouldn't need any more bulletproofing than against 7.62×51/54mm, certainly a hell of a lot better than no protection. The first one you showed is based on the newer M1151 variant that's built for armor (2004-present), I'm sure they have tons of these to work with in addition to all the older humvees that didn't have armor when they were made.

A bigger M1117 Guardian wouldn't be bad in hindsight, but the US only has the 4-seaters in relatively small numbers and they're on the expensive side for a transport vehicle. Seems like everything the US Army goes for has a huge expense and bloat problem between the matvee, the canceled M10 "light" tank and the Strykers.

[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah - Western militaries do need light and cheap vehicles, it's just that this is swinging too far towards light, to the point that it doesn't even have doors anymore. And you don't exactly need to be some big innovator here, the model was already figured out by the Soviets over half-a-century ago - and if the BTR's ergonomics are unacceptable, you can easily make a vehicle of the same style but bigger and with rear doors, like the French VAB or German TPz Fuchs (although you'll also probably want a boost of mine protection to modern standards).

For the Humvees - I posted another article today, and it turns out readiness rates of ground vehicles are getting pretty bad due to lack of maintenance and parts. So a lot of those Humvees in storage might be barely-functional at this point. This wouldn't be a problem if they were just being continuously manufactured, but production was massively scaled down, so that ship has sailed.

The M1117 would probably be cheaper if there was an actual large-scale contact for it, but again, ship has sailed on that one, should have made the correct procurement decision a decade ago. The Stryker also seems pretty expensive for what it is, I guess it's just MIC grafting all the way down.

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