cross-posted from: https://ibbit.at/post/64652
Italy has despatched a second warship to support the humanitarian Global Sumud Flotilla en route to deliver aid to Gaza and break Israel’s criminal starvation blockade, following continued – now nightly – Israeli attacks on the fleet of volunteer-crewed boats.
But at the same time, the Italian government has tried to pressure the flotilla to capitulate to Israeli demands to surrender its aid supplies – in this case to the local Catholic Church, which Israel will supposedly allow to distribute the aid in Gaza unmolested, despite the occupation’s diversion of aid to the criminal gangs it funds and its near-daily slaughter of desperate Palestinian aid-seekers.
Italy sending more support to the Global Sumud Flotilla – but with demands
The Global Sumud Flotilla consists of around fifty civilian vessels crewed by lawyers, politicians, medics and activists and has been repeatedly bombed by drones and buzzed by fighter aircraft, now with the added psychological warfare of drones playing loud music all night to try to deprive crews of sleep. Despite this one-sided aggression, the Israeli government is claiming that it is the unarmed humanitarian volunteers who are ‘pursuing violence’.
Italy sent a first naval ship earlier this week to ‘assist’ the flotilla after it was bombed by at least fifteen drones in international waters near Greece. Spain followed suit shortly afterward. So far, no crew member has been reported killed or seriously hurt.
Italian PM Giorgia Meloni said the government’s proposal was to hand the aid over in Cyprus to the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem for distribution in Gaza, and tried to blame the flotilla organisers for not accepting the ‘offer’.
Israel continues to maintain its vice-like grip on food and other essentials in Gaza while shooting and shelling starving aid-seekers at the ‘GHF’ so-called ‘aid’ stations it controls and funding an ISIS-linked criminal gang to steal aid and kill Palestinian refugees.
The flotilla crews have said they will continue on their mission to deliver the aid directly.
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Woaw why isn't CHINA doing this TOO?!? /s
Where are those ultras at from the previous thread? Y'all seriously thought Italy was going to war with Israel LOL.
Calling anyone who disagrees with you an ultra is a bit childish.
Ultra is already becoming the new "tankie", nothing is more harmful to leftist agitations than crypto-trotskyists spewing intellectualized terms into the mainstream.
crypto-trot is a fun phrase lol. Say it out loud. Feels nice.
I wish I could find an eye rolling emote to put here
Weren't Italy's port unions originally red unions? And isnt red unionism like the defining feature of left communism?
No idea. Not what they were referring to anyway. Also the unions are actually doing real, material, anti-genocide work. That's the opposite of ultra-armchairing as far as I'm concerned.
My point is that ultras do good work
I find it childish that do-nothing western leftists have the GALL to criticize the most successful AES state to exist.
I find it pretty racist that a bunch of terminally online crackers think that they are more intelligent at geopolitics than an eastern country that has maintained its sovernty since the dawn of time.
I think you should read more Mao, if you think he thought introspection and reflection on ways to improve was bad. No state and organization is immune to criticism. I am generally pretty China positive. That doesn't mean I think every aspect of China is great. And yeah, I'm just a nobody on the internet. Just like all of us. We're just chatting lol.
I'm not saying that any AES is beyond reproach. Constructive criticism is healthy and good.
You want to know what's not good? Using criticisms as a hammer and wedge to sow Reddit/Fed discord on enemies of the west. Take a look at the previous thread and tell me that wasn't exactly what was done.
We've seen this story play out before with the Trots (+ other left deviAtions). We've seen it before with Krusechevs secret speech. We saw it before with Hungary. With the Sino-Soviet split. My point is: Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater because you might not understand or agree with what AES countries are doing.
I don't know if saying "Maybe China should work to cut economic ties with Israel" is a fed talking point. It's really the opposite of what they'd want.
Using this as a talking point to say they have turned their backs to communism/internationalism is a fed point that you yourself inspired in that thread. The meek western left sitting on their high horse of morality criticizing AES when their own countries actions are responsible for a vast majority of the horrors in the world is beyond words.
China is enemy #1 of course its good for the feds that the western radical left dislikes China. We have documented evidence of this same playbook being used historically (as I already mentioned). I personally refuse to demonise AES the same way the western left had historically.
Enemy number one? What? Not at all lol. China does have great effects on the world, and the global south through their economic investment. Not to mention the vast increase in quality of life of their citizens. Like I said, I like a lot of what China does. I’m not criticizing them because I think they’re bad. I’m doing it because I think so much more good could come in the world if they took a solid, committed stance of international socialist leadership.
Saying I think China could still improve in international, ideologically-driven support, isn’t the same thing as repeating State Department smears. I’m not talking about bullshit like the Uyghur “genocide”, Falon Gong lies, or poor oppressed Taiwan.___
My point is there's a way of putting this without demonizing AES.
✅ China should cut economic ties with Israel
❌ China refusing to cut ties with Israel shows that they are revisionist capitalist dogs who have abandoned communism and internationalism.
Hope you can see my point and the difference between the two.
Fascist Italy doing this for optics is still more impressive than defending China still doing jack shit and trademaxing
Shit so they're trading with the zionist entity?
oh bigtime yeah
it makes me very sad, and I wish they would stop
Ireland too, no words, what a fucking betrayal. Thanks for sharing, could we please get a source from where the screenshots are taken? I'd like to save it too.
Ireland's economy is like 1/4 depending on BIG us tech firms, they also let the us use their airports for military use AND they are currently supporting the EU chat control law. Irish people may draw on the radical anti-colonial history of their past, but modern ireland (especially its elite) have turned it into a very aesthetics, because in the end ireland is a global north country aligned with western imperialism.
If Ireland was a threat/in opposition to the empire, then Irish culture and people would not have an positive image in the west.
Mind you Irish nationalists warned that it would happen if Irish people didnt fight their own elite post-independence.
crap sorry, I didn't save it but to find this i literally just googled "who trades the most with israel" and then checked the top few results
Fascist Italy is going to "escort" the flotilla to Cyprus and at this point, I won't rule out fascist Italy killing people on the flotilla alongside the IOF.
Fascist Italy helping out Israel is 'doing more for optics' huh? That's a wild take.
China lifting hundreds of millions of people out of poverty, helping develop the third world through belt and road, and standing on the side of peace is just nothing I guess!
I'll be sure to tell Xi that the white western geopolitical communism understanders on hexbear sternly disapprove of his countries actions.
China is minding their business and waiting to clean up the mess after the party is over. That's on us that we haven't shown we are worth them dying for.
Are you saying the Palestinians aren't resisting enough? Haven't show themselves worthy of aid? Think about what you're saying, what it means.
No, china is. China seems to be saying that after the destruction of the USSR protecting global comunism and the eventual redemption of all humanity is more important than getting into a proxy war with the US.
Which like, how could I know if they are right? They seem to be on the winning path now. I am inclined to trust their judgement.
A revolutionary state still has to have internationalist principles, and can't be afraid to be in confrontation with capitalist powers, to challenge their excesses when they are reasonably able. No one is saying they need to get bogged down in a war with the US. Just, there are degrees of action, and sometimes there's reasonable criticism to be made.
Edit: Wait. You're saying the genocide of Palestinians is an acceptable cost to "safeguard global communism". Fuck you.
Why? It hasn't worked out very often in the past. I would rather see china save everyone but they are right to be sacred as failure is an option. Ask the Russians of the 90s if Afghanistan was worth it.
Is another century of humiliation for the Chinese people a risk you are willing to tell them to make?
Most places are probably going to see some palestine like times before China does anything.
I never said China had to invade Israel. The fact that you had to jump to that extreme to defend your passivity towards Genocide is rather disgusting.
Just because more places are going to see "some Palestine like times" doesn't excuse failure to act in this case.
Really gross to describe a genocide as a party imo