My dad has a cabin in Appalachia and I won't lie being there by myself are some of my best memories. I think some of it is my life is very loud, I work retail so people are constantly screaming at me, my parents are narcissists who are constantly screaming at me, most of my partners were short tempered so they always screamed at me. Nobody screams at me in the woods. Maybe I am a bit of a misanthrope, I don't know.

I'm not delusional about being able to live totally off the grid there though. If nothing else the soil sucks.

they're like that because of how other suburban americans are.

I had a couple paragraphs of what amounted to trauma-dumping that I'll spare you, but it's my inclination to believe that it's not always misanthropy but just alienation from a hollow, cruel, and ugly collection of circumscribed commercial transactions and loneliness calling itself a society, leading to people just wanting space because they aren't taught how to cope except by being an atom in the void. I understand this less with people who have friends, though.

I think about it a lot, although in my fantasy I spend 90% of my time cleaning and maintaining solar panels which is a skill I actually have.

Its that they want somewhere green and quiet, which our cities should be but aren't. They dont want community because theyve never had it and dont know to want it. But they have been to a farm before, maybe for Christmas or Halloween

There is a certain satisfaction which comes from doing work like cutting a fallen tree into logs, moving the logs, cutting them into firewood, and reaping the full fruits of your unalienated labor. Aside from whatever fantasies the suburban fascists have in their head about "living off the land" or achieving the platonic ideal of individualism.

is it really that weird to fantasize about escaping the soul crushing doldrums of a desk job and a house in the suburbs? seems pretty reasonable to me

Seems like a normal way to live, to me.

Motherfuckers who say stuff like this have never worked a single week at a farm.