The democrats are caving on the shutdown. A vote is expected tonight. [Updated info and new link] (www.axios.com)

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~20 hours ago I wrote...

I'm really shocked they didn't cave [within the first week or two]. I was nearly 100% certain they would.

I'll work on my Nostradamus more.

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

C'mon. The reality of this is not binary. There's very large gray area between pleading by "being snippy" and being hostile by saying "Schumer can go fuck himself."

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

right, "snippy" is rude. the average liberal is so concerned with civility they would probably not f-bomb a voicemail

i'm 50-50 on whether that person in particular thinks chuck will personally listen to the messages

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

I seriously don't know what "snippy" means to the average lib. Is it something like...

"Senator Schumer - I'm tempted to use the f-bomb in this message. It illustrates how deeply disappointed I am in you. Furthermore I am crestfallen that..."

i'm 50-50 on whether that person in particular thinks chuck will personally listen to the messages

I think the average phone call lib knows Schumer won't ever actually hear them. Yet they cling to some kind of phone call cargo cult thing where if enough people like them make phone calls - the senators will hear them. It's like "Field of Dreams" I guess.

[-] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

This is why when calling your legislators, it's always important to start off the voicemail message with the magic words: "I know where you live and I have seen where you sleep"

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

Yet they cling to some kind of phone call cargo cult thing where if enough people like them make phone calls - the senators will hear them. It's like "Field of Dreams" I guess.

a fuckload of phone calls and physical mail does make a difference if they start doing the math and get worried about not having votes when they want to get re-elected, it's just really hard to actually get that much political engagement from burgerlanders in a non-election year. it's a little cargo-culty but it's not as feckless as the no kings shit.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

By having the vote on Sunday - Schumer made phone calls 100% irrelevant. But I guess if panicked dem voters had been calling for weeks - maybe that would slightly worry the DC dems. In this bifurcated sportsball reality - I don't think the DC dems care very much about angry voters.