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[-] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Worse than capitalism despite being more well intentioned.

Cs Lewis nailed it while talking about religion:

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

Ask yourself, do you really want the people of .ml holding power over every facet of your life?

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I don't think communism = oppressive morality.

[-] Robaque@feddit.it -1 points 1 month ago

OP asked about communism, not marxism-leninism specifically

[-] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

If you're trying to say true communism hasn't been tried please let me stop you because that's a no true Scotsman fallacy.

Everyone who's ever instituted a flavor of communism would call their preferred flavor "true communism."

[-] Robaque@feddit.it 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Honestly, claiming no true Scotsman fallacy over a semantic disagreement, is a fallacy in itself. I'm not talking about a "truer" or "purer" form of communism which marxist leninists failed to realise, because the definition I'm working with - of communism as a classless, stateless, moneyless society (and the ideas and ideologies branching from that definition) - encompasses far more than that specific ideology. This isn't even a defence of communism - if anything, I'm pointing out there are other facets of communism that would make for a more interesting discussion than rehashing how bad the soviets were for the millionth time.

[-] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

"Honestly, claiming no true Scotsman fallacy over a semantic disagreement, is a fallacy in itself."

What fallacy is that?

[-] Robaque@feddit.it 1 points 1 month ago

Hey, idk all the names people have made up to categorise fallacies, but I do know you misapplied the no true scotsman fallacy over a semantic disagreement, or at least a misunderstanding.

[-] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I think you're just angry that I preempted you with an argument you can't refute.

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