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[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

I posted this in the other thread, but wanna share here too:

Most interesting thing to me is the Frame apparently runs a Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, and is using SteamOS, implying official ARM support for SteamOS, Steam and Proton! Could mean steam and proton coming to android too.

[-] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

And the base would be Arch Linux ARM, right? So that should see an uptick in development too.

[-] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 4 points 3 weeks ago

Arch Linux has been implementing a build system for other architectures. Perhaps they'll make ARM official by the time Frame comes out.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I’m still a little curious how that will work for games. Are they going to somehow emulate Win32 amd64 games? Do devs have to recompile them in some new way? Will engines support it beyond Unity and Unreal?

[-] charizardcharz@piefed.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It was mentioned in the LTT coverage. Aside from native ARM games they have a translation layer(FEX) to play x86 games on ARM. They'll have a "Verified" tag like the Steam Deck for compatibility. I assume you'll still be able to force trying to run unverified games.

Edit: FEX is not a Valve thing, but an existing open source x86/x86_64 emulator that Valve is using. It's not clear if they're forking it or directly contributing though.

[-] Harvey656@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

That same video says that "Valve has heavily contributed to FEX"

[-] charizardcharz@piefed.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Well, that shows how well I was paying attention to the video

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yup, FEX to translate x86 to ARM.

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The Frame isn't playing the games on its ARM chip. It's just streaming audio/visual data from the PC and relaying the controller inputs back to the PC.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That's the normal mode of operation, but it can apparently also run games locally on the Frame itself, which I guess gives people a portable


if less powerful


gaming option that they can haul around easily if they want.

[-] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

It is fascinating and a huge step, but I want to keep expectations low. It will work, but it will not be as compatible as x86 Proton, not at all. It is first and primarily an OS for streaming games and running VR. That is the VR rendering from the streaming computer, not the VR game itself. In other words, they only had to get exactly one app to run well enough for public use. According to the developer, it is working with a surprising amount of games. I agree, one game is surprising, but trust me when I say you will not be running Windows x86 games in ARM Linux for a long time.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 0 points 3 weeks ago

I think that for running games locally on the Frame, for anything other than games designed specifically to be gentle on a battery


and many games are not, unfortunately


you're also really going to need to leave it plugged into a powerbank. The internal battery just isn't that large relative to what the device can draw.

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/vr-hardware/steam-frame-specs-availability/

The battery included on the Steam Frame is a 21 Wh model. The Snapdragon system-on-chip gobbles up around 20 W at full power—that's how much it'll likely use while playing a game locally in standalone mode. From this, we can expect around an hour of playtime without additional charge.

[-] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 0 points 3 weeks ago

I want backpack sized battery banks.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago

You could probably put a 400 Wh powerbank in a backpack (search for "power station" on Amazon).

[-] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Jeff Geerling is probably having a fit right now.

[-] noxypaws@pawb.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

what does that homophobic ass have to do with it, is he not a fan of ARM or something?

[-] Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

Oh shit he's homophobic?

[-] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

...wat.

I think you must be thinking of some other Jeff Geerling. The one I'm talking about is probably the #1 guy on Youtube for content about ARM stuff, and AFAIK isn't a homophobe.

Your comment doesn't make any sense because, even if you were talking about the right person and your accusation were accurate, why would you know some obscure thing about him while being unaware of the thing he's famous for?

[-] __hetz@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Going back roughly a decade you can find blog posts and some bits on Twitter. I don't see anything outright gay-bashing but his moral worldview, when he speaks on the matter, seems to be shaped by his Catholic faith. I don't think he hates homosexuals, and I can't guess at how his beliefs effect others (who for, or how, he votes and such), but he certainly seems to have a moral opposition and hasn't since stated otherwise that I am aware.

If you need a smoking gun, here's a quote from Twitter around 2017. Context is that this apparently stemmed from the removal of developer Larry "Crell" Garfield over "Gorean" (?) beliefs or participation in that subculture. Relating to some BDSM, male-domination, female slaves "Gor" novel series, that I cannot be assed to dig deeper into, and concerns he'd carry the "misogyny" into into the workplace. Anyway:

The Drupal community is treading perilous waters right now. Risk of excluding more members than just Crell. Careful with moral equivalence! It's a heck of a lot more nuanced than that. But basically, if the criteria for being part of the Drupal community anymore is "Must both publicly and privately support Gay marriage, etc." then... I think I might be excluded.

As an atheist looking in, I find Abrahamic faiths fundamentally incompatible with homosexuality. Having a gay Christian marriage, for example, is an absurdity to me. To be clear I'm not personally opposed to it. I find very much wrong with his faith but I don't believe Jeff is wrong about his faith. But kudos and power to whoever wants to lie to themselves and retcon Christianity in order to believe (what I perceive to be) a bigger, more comforting lie. If we can keep eroding at it maybe we'll finally get over the hatred and hangups it causes, or at least no longer be able to point to it as a justifying source.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Well, that's unfortunate re: Jeff, but it's still weird to me that the other commenter would be aware of that about him (which you mention having to dig through a decade of blog posts and old tweets to find), without at some point also finding out that he's 'the Raspberry Pi guy.'

It's like knowing that Hitler was a vegetarian but somehow not knowing that he was the dictator of Germany who started WWII -- it just doesn't make sense for a fact to be that isolated from its context.

[-] __hetz@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

A bit odd I suppose, but he's also "The ansible guy" and a solid "proxmox/truenas" guy. It's not unlikely they could've become aware of him looking for information on automation or virtualization. That's actually how I first came across his content. The Pi and other hardware reviews are okay but I care more about the how-to's and what I'm actually running on my toys over the toys themselves.

Anyway, I didn't dig real deep but I'm not ready to nail him to a cross. I've met Christians who "don't approve" of whatever while simultaneously acknowledging someone else doesn't need their approval in the first place to be who they are. That it isn't their place to thrust their moral beliefs upon others. Not to say I don't still find their worldview problematic either, and their level headedness is being drowned out by Christofascist rhetoric as of late, but time is still sanding the edges off their faith and it remains light-years ahead of other parts of the world.

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