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[-] artyom@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think anyone thinks he's a saint, despite the memes. Except if you compare him to the fucking sleazeballs at companies like Epic, Rockstar, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, Ubisoft, EA, Blizzard, etc. etc., not to mention every other publicly traded corporation, he kind of his. Again, by comparison. He single-handedly improves the entire industry. He could very well have developed a locked down Steam OS that won't do anything but play games but he instead invested in an open source platform that sorely needed it, and makes the world a better place. Steam doesn't have to put up big banners for Denuvo or AI or games that require a remote account but they do, purely for the benefit of the users.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's like he said decades ago, or near decades ago. Piracy is a quality of service problem.

When you do the right thing the right way, people will come and you can make a shit load of money. It doesn't even mean he has to have done everything right, but you do enough right non-anti-competitive things like that, and it makes a difference.

Same thing like you said about SteamOS. They didn't have to make it open, and could have made money, but the ecosystem that can be built around an open platform, and the people you can draw to it are going to be miles better than a closed system where thats the mindset from the top.

[-] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"single-handedly" lmao, as if newell is the guy doing all the work and not the valve employees who work for him… or, yknow, the contributors to all the open-source projects steamos is built on

proton and steamos would be nowhere today without the decades of work by the WINE/DXVK contributors, and the myriad of other open-source projects that make Linux into what it is. all valve did was add their proprietary client on top of that (as well as fund the development of proton, tbf, i'm thankful for them on that one… but again, that work was done by valve employees and contributors, not the billionaire CEO)

[-] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

as if newell is the guy doing all the work

He's the one who makes all the decisions. That's what matters here.

proton and steamos would be nowhere today without the decades of work by the WINE/DXVK contributors

And Proton wouldn't exist at all without Valve.

all valve did was add their proprietary client on top of that

That's completely false.

that work was done by valve employees and contributors, not the billionaire

The billionaire is the one who told them to do it.

The billionaire is the one who told them to do it.

So what? They would have eventually done it without him.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

LOL what? You can't be serious...

[-] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

proton without newell is proton, but with maybe a different direction

proton without valve's workers and WINE/DXVK contributors is nothing. it's literally nothing.

the same goes for basically any projects. the billionaire CEOs are (sometimes, not even always!) the people who take decisions. everyone else does the work. without the CEOs, the same projects would have decisions taken in other ways. without the workers, there would be nothing.

stop licking billionaire boots.

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