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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Lugh@futurology.today to c/futurology@futurology.today

The countries committed to permanently ending fossil fuel use now far outnumber those against. Their problem? Their chief organising conference, the 30-year-old COP conferences, comes with vetoes from the petro-states. This year, 1,600 fossil industry lobbyists attended, and they managed to get any mention of fossil fuels scrubbed from the final agreement.

This ridiculous state of affairs can't continue, and this is a classic move to break the deadlock. Sideline COP & the petrostates, by creating an alternative, they don't have power in.

The first ever International Conference on the Just Transition Away from Fossil Fuels, scheduled for April 2026.

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[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago

Coal use != coal mining. Exporting shit to make yourself look cleaner is not how it works. It is exactly as bad.

[-] vas@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

To what are you replying to really? Does it say anywhere in the original article that the new conference is about the reduction of coal use but not mining? I haven't found any indications of that; instead, I see mentions that they want to reduce overall "coal dependency" and "coal extraction":

transitioning away from fossil fuel extraction
oil, gas, and coal extraction
global effort to phase out coal

https://fossilfueltreaty.org/first-international-conference

I think such a trivial thought has come to the organizers of this conference and it's well addressed.

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I originally replied to someone, must have ended up in the wrong place.

[-] vas@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

Ah NP then. Peace!

[-] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 2 months ago

That was supposed to be in regards to Australia? We don't use coal, but boy do we mine it.

[-] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

feel free to take it up with the countries buying it, or is it just the west that has to reduce its dependence on coal?

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

3rd world countries that need cheap energy are to blame instead of one of the richest countries selling stuff because it wants to be richer?

[-] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago

if they need cheap energy renewables are the cheapest, especially with the 3rd worlds links to China, building coal power plants is just ignorance

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

So they all(!) do not know better and use more expensive stuff why?

[-] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago

Oh they know it, they just don't care, good article:

Producing nickel is causing a staggering amount of climate pollution, and Indonesia knows it.

https://thediplomat.com/2025/09/funding-coal-powered-nickel-in-indonesian-is-a-climate-disaster/

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 months ago

If Australia stops selling coal, it will get more expensive and other countries will have more reasons to use renewables

[-] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago

renewables are already the cheapest form of power, there's no excuse to be building new coal power plants in 2025

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 0 points 2 months ago

Yeah, but the smaller the difference is, the less stupid they have to be to make the wrong decision. The bigger the difference is, the more nincompoops will make the right decision.

[-] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago

as in my other post, they don’t give a shit, they are digging up the majority of their own coal anyway

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