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Image is of Rixi Moncada of the LIBRE Party voting in the election.


On November 30th, Hondurans voted to choose their next President, as well as deputies to the Congress, councillors, and other candidates. Like all elections in Latin America, the looming shadow of American intervention will be a major factor in deciding the winner. In this election, that intervention has been fairly naked, with Trump literally stating who he wishes to win (the far-right nationalist guy, Nasry Asfura). Asfura has said that if he does not win, American funding to the country will dry up - a clear threat - and Trump has additionally pardoned the former Honduran president and US ally Juan Orlando Hernández, imprisoned for smuggling cocaine into the US.

The other candidates in this election are Salvador Nasralla of the Liberal Party, who is essentially running on the same platform as Asfura with some differences (such differences would inevitably vanish if he were to win); and Rixi Moncada of the progressive (self-described as democratic socialist) LIBRE Party. The narrative about this election is - try not to yawn - the neverending battle of democracy against communism. This narrative is obviously very important to uphold in the current environment of accelerated aggression against Venezuela, Colombia, Mexico, and others.

Who is going to win? As of me writing this sentence, the results have not yet been fully reported. However, there has been something of a scandal in regards to a plot - with recorded voices, though those guilty plead AI tampering - to show the best possible preliminary results for the right wing, so as to manipulate the narrative and morale of the population. The idea, is presumably, that if LIBRE were to win, the fascists could say "How did LIBRE go from 20% of the vote (which is what the preliminary results showed) to a victory?! It must be communist meddling!"

Of course, it's entirely possible that LIBRE won't win anyway, or get particularly close. We shall see how things turn out very shortly.


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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
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Sources:

Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
Simplicius, who publishes on Substack. Like others, his political analysis should be soundly ignored, but his knowledge of weaponry and military strategy is generally quite good.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

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Mohamed was finally arrested after the 1998 bombings of the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, for which he had provided training, funding, and intelligence. He pled guilty to five counts of conspiracy in 2000 and hasn’t been sentenced or seen publicly in the 25 years since. His current whereabouts are unknown. The cases of Ali Mohamed and Omar Abdel-Rahman are just two examples of US-supported Islamist fighters among thousands. These Islamists derived their funding, expertise, training, and intelligence directly from the United States, first as a proxy force against the Soviets, then against Muslim states in the Middle East and Africa, and finally against the United States itself. The scale of their activities worldwide vastly exceeds that of the Cuban exiles. The results of arming these groups cost the US trillions of dollars and tens of thousands of lives. It was used as the justification for a decades-long global war, the curtailing of civil liberties, and unprecedented destabilization in the Middle East that caused the deaths of millions and displacement of tens of millions, spawning a refugee crisis of unprecedented scale. However, it’s almost impossible to explain continued US intelligence backing of Islamic extremists as they planned and perpetrated terrorist attacks on US soil solely as institutional incompetence or a series of comical mistakes. The case of the Islamist proxies is unique in that the lag time between their status as proxy and transition to an enemy collapsed so completely that they were actively being protected even as they were directly attacking the US.

Blowback?

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These four examples: Cuban exiles, the South Vietnamese, Salvadorans, and the Mujahideen should be sufficient to prove the first part of our case, and this already long piece would become unwieldy if we detailed any of them in their full scope or covered the numerous other examples US and European history have to offer. For the curious, however, we can recommend researching:

  • The Contras (drug trafficking)
  • ISIS
  • Libyan rebel groups (2017 Manchester bombing)
  • Operation Gladio (terrorism across Italy and Europe, 60s - 80s)
  • Brabant killers, Belgium (unproven connection to SDRA VIII stay-behind network)
  • Operation Valuable (Albanian mafia networks)
  • Ustase, Croatia (hijackings and bombings in Europe and Australia)
  • Release of Yakuza by US occupation authorities in Japan
  • Hmong organized crime in the US
  • US collaboration with the Italian mafia in WW2
  • Kosovo Liberation Army (human/drug trafficking)

The pattern, in the broadest terms, is one of “blowback,” where the creation of a proxy force results in that proxy force becoming a liability to its backers after a proxy conflict ends. The popular narrative of blowback portrays the phenomenon as karmic retribution for short-term thinking. But this idea has justifiably been criticized as the gaps in a patchy history of covert operations are gradually filled by the evidence. In the most extreme cases, blowback is intentional. While proxies have been powerful tools in conflicts worldwide, factions within state power structures have frequently turned this weapon inwards and used the remnants of those forces against their own domestic enemies and their populations. We’ll now turn towards the case of Ukraine.

Ukraine

Ukraine’s use as a proxy force against Russia dates back to the Grand Duchy of Lithuania’s deployment of Ruthenian levies against Muscovy in the 14th century. Leverage of a succession of ethnic and political entities within present-day Ukraine by the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Ottoman Empire, Sweden, Austria-Hungary, Poland, and Nazi Germany against various Russian political entities continued over the centuries. The CIA armed, trained, and inserted UPA remnants into Soviet Ukraine for intelligence gathering and partisan activity beginning in 1949 under Project Aerodynamic.

Political instability in post-Soviet Ukraine initially precluded deep and direct US intelligence ties within the Ukrainian state, with soft power mechanisms like the National Endowment of Democracy (NED) taking the lead in sabotaging Ukrainian ties with Russia. The NED and other intelligence-linked, state-sponsored funding sources flooded the country with Western cash starting in the early 2000s and quickly established firm control over parts of the Ukrainian media. In 2013 Carl Gershman, the head of the NED, described Ukraine as “the biggest prize” among post-Soviet states in countering Russia in an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal. These efforts were successful in shifting Ukrainian public opinion and bolstering the position of Ukrainian nationalist paramilitaries, contributing to the successful overthrow of the government in the 2014 Maidan Revolution. With the Russian-neutral Yanukovych government ousted, Western intelligence had a free hand in the new Ukraine. The CIA and MI6 immediately established direct ties with Ukraine’s internal security service, the SBU, and military intelligence directorate, the GUR. SBU head Valentyn Nalyvaichenko created a “three-way partnership” between Ukraine, the CIA, and MI6 whereby the foreign intelligence services would rebuild Ukraine’s intelligence apparatus from scratch. SBU and GUR personnel were flown to locations across Europe for training by CIA and MI6 instructors, and the CIA established over a dozen bases within Ukraine, an unusually high number for a country of Ukraine’s size.

The CIA created secret Ukrainian special forces units dedicated to collecting intelligence on the Russians. CIA-trained Ukrainian spies were inserted into Russia, Europe, and Cuba. Current Ukrainian defense intelligence head Kyrylo Budanov was a member of one of the CIA’s clients, Unit 2245. Budanov led an amphibious landing in Crimea to plant explosives at an airfield in 2016. The unit was ambushed immediately by Russian Spetsnaz operators and was forced to retreat. The incident caused significant controversy in the US/Ukrainian relationship, as there was supposedly a moratorium on the CIA orchestrating lethal operations against the Russians at the time. Budanov was wounded and was flown to the US for treatment at Walter Reed Medical Center. In 2015, the CIA helped establish the “fifth directorate” of the SBU, a dedicated assassination and sabotage unit. In 2017, the UN Human Rights Monitoring Mission in Ukraine expressed “concern” that the newly rebuilt SBU was perpetrating human rights abuses through the systematic killing and torture of journalists within Ukraine. Meanwhile, the US Special Operations Command established a dedicated military and intelligence training program in Ukraine in 2015. By 2022, Ukrainian special forces units had doubled in size and been trained in sabotage, underwater demolition, and irregular warfare. The British established a permanent training presence in the country in 2015 under Operation Orbital, training 17,500 Ukrainian personnel by 2019. The US intelligence relationship with Ukraine was expanded under Trump and then further under Biden.

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Western-trained Ukrainian forces present a looming danger that has the potential to be larger in scale than any of the other cases we’ve covered here. First, the scope and scale of the training and direct military assistance dwarfs that of any proxy conflict since the beginning of the Cold War era. Ukraine has been flooded with hundreds of billions of dollars of weapons, with oversight over those weapons being infamously lackadaisical. Western authorities have been sounding the alarm about this issue since the beginning of the conflict. The Global Initiative Against Transnational Organized Crime (GI-TOC) said in a report earlier this year that Ukrainian organized crime arms trafficking is already a much larger issue than it was in past conflicts like Afghanistan and the Balkans. Spanish police have identified incidents in which drug trafficking organizations have been armed with NATO weapons donated to Ukraine. A Europol report released in April said that these criminal gangs are increasingly armed with “explosive weapons.” A 2024 DoD audit report admitted the agency had failed to track over a billion dollars in military equipment sent to Ukraine. In 2024, GI-TOC detailed some examples of weapons for sale on the international black market that Ukrainian authorities had confiscated: a Zu-23-2 23mm anti-aircraft gun, US-made machine guns, automatic rifles, automatic grenade launchers, and explosives. Many of these items were being sold by active-duty AFU servicemen.

When the conflict in Ukraine ends, whenever and however that might be, the quantity of military-grade weapons in the country will dwarf that of past Western proxy conflicts. And while international arms trafficking presents a worrying threat, the more disturbing prospect is who will be holding those weapons when the music stops. Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians have obtained direct experience in one of the largest conflicts since the end of WW2. Under the AFU umbrella is a hodgepodge of semi-autonomous, ideologically motivated paramilitary units. Some of these units have been conducting sabotage and assassination campaigns for a decade. Their expertise in drone warfare is unparalleled outside the Russian armed forces, and the mainstream narrative is that they’ve already perpetrated the largest terrorist attack on industrial infrastructure in modern history.

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The Ukrainians also possess a unique skill set. Even before the war, Ukraine was a hotbed of scam call center activity, with large organized criminal networks operating hundreds of call centers across the country. This expertise has been put to work by the Ukrainian intelligence services, who trained the scam callers to use blackmail and threats to coerce elderly Russians into committing terrorist attacks. In 2024, American Ryan Routh attempted to assassinate Donald Trump. Routh, who had traveled extensively in Ukraine, was communicating with British-trained Afghan special forces units to recruit them to fight in the AFU. He was also in contact with a Ukrainian source in an attempt to obtain a rocket launcher. He cited support for Ukraine as a motive in the assassination attempt. In February of this year, 17-year-old would-be Trump assassin Nikita Casap killed his parents in preparation for a plot after communicating extensively with an unknown Ukrainian source. Casap was reportedly influenced by the Order of the Nine Angles and MKU groups, both of which have connections to Ukraine. He planned to flee there after killing the president.

The danger presented by postwar Ukrainian personnel is twofold. First, that they will provide a similar manpower pool for black operations as the Cuban exiles once did. In an increasingly fractured European order and amidst regular and mysterious “accidents” at important military and industrial sites across the continent, their spiderweb of relationships with various Western intelligence agencies makes it difficult to predict what or who they’d be used against. Ukrainian special forces and intelligence agents will already possess vast quantities of firearms, explosives, and drones, and they have the training to use them effectively. They also have the expertise to manipulate third parties into conducting attacks for them. Just as the Cuban exiles provided a mercenary army for assassinations, bombings, hijackings, and drug trafficking, Ukrainian exiles will give nefarious actors within deep factions of western governments the ability to execute operations with plausible deniability. The Ukrainians will be much better trained and equipped than the Cubans ever were, and they have millions of Ukrainian refugees in Europe and hundreds of thousands in the US to support them. Ukrainian organized crime will be capable of funding operations through arms and human trafficking.

The second danger is posed by Ukrainian exiles as a violent political force unto themselves. Over the past year, a Ukrainian stab-in-the-back narrative has been forming steadily and is at risk of becoming mainstream. An increasing number of Ukrainian military and political figures, including right-wing nationalists, have gone on the record to warn about an impending or already underway betrayal by their European or American sponsors.

“What has happened is a stab in the back, there is no other way to describe it.” - Genadi Kostov, AFU (ret.)

Ukrainian sentiment regarding its western partners is increasingly souring. Divisions within nationalist elements have formed, with some angrier at the Europeans for pushing for a continuance of a pointless war as others are at Trump for attempting to force Zelensky to end it. In a postwar environment, even small numbers of committed and ideologically motivated Ukrainian soldiers will be capable of attempting to pay the West back asymmetrically. Last week, Ukrainian journalist Maksim Kukhar posted this on Facebook:

“1. The plan is as follows. Officially condemn the United States for switching to the side of aggressive Russia in its war against Ukraine. In connection with the betrayal by the United States, expel the entire staff of the U.S. Embassy and all American citizens from Ukraine within 48 hours. Freeze the accounts and activities of American companies in Ukraine. Begin the process of their nationalization, as well as the nationalization of any U.S. assets in Ukraine. Offer EU countries Ukrainian troops to blockade U.S. military bases in Europe. Since, with the United States now definitively siding with Moscow, these bases may also threaten the independence of EU states. Prepare for military confrontation with U.S. forces in Europe. Develop pre-emptive strikes against their bases and concentrations of forces.

  1. When Russia attacked us, we were told we wouldn’t last even a week. Today they will say that if we don’t listen to the U.S. and capitulate, we won’t last even two weeks. But that is a lie—just like the first time. Russia has already broken its teeth on us. Now we must force the United States, which from the first days of the war has helped Moscow far more than it helped us, to understand that it has no right to dictate anything to our country.
  1. On the military aspect. The United States has no political possibility to create a significant grouping of forces near our borders, nor is such a possibility expected. Trump cannot say, “I will send troops to Ukraine so they can force Kyiv to submit to Moscow.” Therefore, the U.S. is now simply gifting us the position of Europe’s military leader for decades to come. The main thing now is not to be frightened by empty words and not to give up this position for nothing, for reasons no one understands. Only escalation with Washington and accusing it of betraying everything sacred and democratic—there is no other path.”

No matter how delusional his screed may appear, Maxim’s sentiment is one of many anti-Western narratives developing within Ukraine. The immense scale of Ukrainian losses, both in personnel and infrastructure, has the potential to motivate decades of anger and potential violence.


If the Ukrainians adhere to the pattern we’ve established in this piece, they will present an enormous risk to societies worldwide. Whether they’re used as a tool by unscrupulous state actors, take revenge for perceived betrayal, or are simply left to their own devices in a devastated Ukraine, the potential for blowback here exceeds most, if not all, prior historical examples. Perhaps most disturbingly, there’s little to be done to mitigate this threat. The weapons can’t be unsent, the Ukrainian soldiers can’t be untrained, and the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian war dead can’t be brought back to life. While random acts of violence punctuate the end of the Global War on Terror, the seeds of future violence have already been sown.

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