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[-] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 18 points 3 days ago

He's better than Space Pope Karen.

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 13 points 3 days ago

I don’t know about that.

While Kai Winn is really fun to hate and has a repulsive personality, on an objective level, she’s better than Dukat. All Kai Winn has to her name is 1 murder (maybe 1.5 if we count her making Bareil meaninglessly sacrifice himself), a failed assassination, some back alley political deals, and a school bombing that killed no one, which, while all horrible, is relatively tame compared to killing millions, sexually assaulting dozens, and running a suicide cult.

Also, while I wouldn’t call Kai Winn humble, she’s much less narcissistic than Dukat. She seems to express a genuine sense of insecurity throughout the series that, while not altruistic, is not expressed (though certainly felt internally) by Dukat. Winn is like, “Why am I not enough for power?” while Dukat is like “I deserve power and someone is cheating me of it.”

Also, when she kills Solbor, she seems to feel a genuine remorse, while Dukat tends to justify his murders.

[-] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

I thought Space Pope Karen was Elon Musk.

[-] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago

Don't overthink my bullshit 😅

He's a monster, but I enjoyed him as a character way more than her, because she's such a unpleasant person.

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 5 points 1 day ago

True. At the same time, if I were forced to invite one to Thanksgiving dinner, I'd have to choose Kai Winn because it'd probably be easier to make her shut up.

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

I totally felt sympathy (maybe pity?) for her when she realized what was going on though. For a moment.

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