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[-] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 18 points 2 days ago

He's better than Space Pope Karen.

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 12 points 2 days ago

I don’t know about that.

While Kai Winn is really fun to hate and has a repulsive personality, on an objective level, she’s better than Dukat. All Kai Winn has to her name is 1 murder (maybe 1.5 if we count her making Bareil meaninglessly sacrifice himself), a failed assassination, some back alley political deals, and a school bombing that killed no one, which, while all horrible, is relatively tame compared to killing millions, sexually assaulting dozens, and running a suicide cult.

Also, while I wouldn’t call Kai Winn humble, she’s much less narcissistic than Dukat. She seems to express a genuine sense of insecurity throughout the series that, while not altruistic, is not expressed (though certainly felt internally) by Dukat. Winn is like, “Why am I not enough for power?” while Dukat is like “I deserve power and someone is cheating me of it.”

Also, when she kills Solbor, she seems to feel a genuine remorse, while Dukat tends to justify his murders.

[-] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 1 points 45 minutes ago

I thought Space Pope Karen was Elon Musk.

[-] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago

Don't overthink my bullshit 😅

He's a monster, but I enjoyed him as a character way more than her, because she's such a unpleasant person.

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 4 points 1 day ago

True. At the same time, if I were forced to invite one to Thanksgiving dinner, I'd have to choose Kai Winn because it'd probably be easier to make her shut up.

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I totally felt sympathy (maybe pity?) for her when she realized what was going on though. For a moment.

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 2 days ago

Everytime you start to sympathize with him, he does something more fucked up.

[-] pedz@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Gul Dukat did nothing wrong.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

He even boosted the rations for the Bajorians from starvation to malnourishment! How can anyone even think he was bad?

He also actually loved his comfort women and treated them well, unlike the others.

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Gul Dukat got what he deserved.

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