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Mozilla Names New CEO, Firefox To Evolve Into A "Modern AI Browser"
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Except that *Fox, *Fennec and *Wolf are downstream to Firefox, so if the main trunk goes shit, they will become outdated soon.
You kinda want it to be based on Firefox, as the only other option is chrome. The forks already strip out all the mozilla bullshit, it'll just be more work to strip out all the AI nonsense.
I'm mainly familiar with librewolf, it's not just stripped of nonsense but also hardened by default. Actually so much so that I stayed on Firefox as it was too much effort (so far) to "unharden" all the aspects I didn't want or need.
We'll cross that bridge when and if we come to it. Or rather we won't, but the devs behind these projects will.
FOSS to thrive needs people who can afford to spend time and energy on it. With the recent enshittification of workers collective power, developers have less of both, and the trend is pessimistic.
The answer is, and always has been, unions and strikes.
Do your part.
Are you telling that to someone on a .ml instance?
Huh. :P
(This is of course a joke)
I've played enough perpetually Early Access / beta vudeo games, beta web browser is just another software to me 😅
I found zen to be too busy for me, ironically. Maybe I should give it another go
It's in beta but I daily drive it and I would say is basically as functional as Firefox already
Aren’t these all soft forks of Firefox? What we need is a hard fork with the funding and team capable of sustaining it.
Not really. Mullvad Browser is a Tor Browser fork. WebLibre is a Gecko-engine based Flutter browser written from scratch.
Tor Browser is a modified Firefox ESR, which is just Firefox with less frequent releases.
ESR actually gets security updates faster then normal Firefox.
Firefox ESR is specifically designed for organizations and enterprises that require a higher level of security and stability.
This is why security focused browsers like to use it as a base.
Mullvad Browser is literally based on Firefox ESR. Which they clearly state.
For example: "Mullvad Browser 14.0, based on Firefox ESR 128"
https://mullvad.net/en/blog/mullvad-browser-140-released
Yes, but they and the Tor Project are making enough changes that Mullvad Browser can be considered a hard fork rather than a soft fork.
No they still base it off of Firefox so it's a soft fork. Hard fork is when you branch off and don't do a resync again.
Might be I'm dumb, but I don't see any Waterfox downloads for Android?
https://github.com/BrowserWorks/waterfox-android/releases