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[-] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And this really exposes a major challenge with FOSS.

Names have meaning - it's why Office is called Office.

This gnu naming isn't much of an issue, because this is stuff only technical folks handle. But if we want end-users to embrace things, we need meaningful names - meaningful to them.

Whenever I tell my friends or family to install Jellyfin so they can access my media, the look on their face says it all.

MediaMonkey - alright, I get it (yea, not FOSS)

Plex? OK, if someone then says "think MultiPlex Theaters", you get it. (Also not FOSS)

Jellyfin? What is that? Jam on a sharkfin?

These work really well:

Resilio SYNC (Yeah, not FOSS, but the name makes sense)

SyncThing (FOSS)

FolderSync (not FOSS)

Notice a trend here?

I have a printed spreadsheet for all the software I use - if I haven't touched a service for a couple months, I'll forget the meaningless name.

[-] BlueKey@fedia.io 48 points 2 months ago

Counterarguments:

  • Chrome
  • Edge
  • Sky
  • Adobe Acrobat
  • Outlook

All wellknown programs or services where the name has no relation to the purpose.

[-] rooroo@feddit.org 11 points 2 months ago

These are all major commercial services that can afford advertising or are already more than established. Most FOSS doesn’t have these perks.

[-] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't even necessarily disagree, but I think that position is unfalsifiable because if the example is a highly popular program then "that doesn't count because it's big", and if it has a small user base then "of course it's small, it has a shitty name".

[-] rooroo@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

Fair enough. But all of these are heavily advertised.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

This.

Nobody's going to forget the name of the browser they use every single day. But if it's some niche tool that I have to look up every time I use it once every few years, that's more difficult.

[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 months ago

Compared to how Microsoft names things, FOSS naming is harmless on average.

Think of them naming the gaming app on Windows PCs "Xbox", or the distinction between "VS Code" and "Visual Studio Code", or "edit" (msedit), etc etc

[-] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 months ago

Outlook (new) classic new new final (7). Teams (personal). Multiple products with wildly different appreance and somewhat different functionality. And then the whole 365-environment naming, starting from the platform itself.

[-] PokerChips@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I've always despised their naming schemes. I always thought I'd they ever started a car company they'd name their vehicle make as "car".

At least Xbox is original but now I'm sitting here wondering if they bought it off a small outfit

[-] tyler@programming.dev 12 points 2 months ago

I mean you kind of break your point with Plex. I have no clue what MultiPlex theaters are, but I do know what jellyfin is. Lots of names have no meaning behind them, even for very popular things.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

If they had said cineplex would that have been more meaningful?

[-] tyler@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

Sure but only because I’m old enough to understand that. It still would have zero meaning for anyone under 25-30. Like someone else said, multiplex only makes sense if you’re over 40 (which I’m not). So literally in 10 years you can go through two different naming conventions and have literally the next generation not know what you are talking about

Only choosing meaningful names really doesn’t work anymore. Stuff moves too fast, language moves too fast, and things change constantly.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

At least over here, Cineplexx is a really big movie theatre corporation. That makes it easy to understand what Plex is about.

[-] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

It's about PMMA sheeting (aka plexiglass), right?

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I have no clue what MultiPlex theaters are

So back in the earlier days of cinema, you'd go to the Cineplex to see a movie. A Cineplex would only have a single screen for viewing movies while the multiplex would have multiple screens for seeing movies on. This started with the first duplex theatre in 1915 and later the first triplex in 1966, shortly followed by theatres with 6+ screens which is around when the term "multiplex" started being used. Basically for anyone born after the 80s (therefore anyone under the age of about 40) the term is largely obsolete since most theatres have at least 4 screens and qualify as multiplexes, plus the industry has seen so much consolidation that smaller independent theatres with 1-2 screens are pretty uncommon now

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

You went on all this rant and forgot the og?

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

GIMP is an acronym for what's arguably the most descriptive name possible: GNU Image Manipulation Program.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

But the acronym totally destroys the understandability of the program name and instead is understood as "an unpleasant or stupid person" (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/gimp).

If you look at similar commercial software you get names like MS Paint, Photoshop or Lightroom.

They should have stuck with "GNU Image", "GNU Photo" or maybe "GNU PhotoEdit".

[-] JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 months ago

When I teach old people how to use GIMP, we all laugh at the name, I explain what it stands for, and then they don't forget it.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

This is what confused me about OP, because I think of this as the application (ie program, or tool) not the library. So to put the name of the tool back into a library, seems backwards.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's called Jellyfin because "streaming" is something water does,

The rest of it is diffcult to know for sure but fins guide you and jelly is flexible, and Jellyfin is a fork of Emby - so maybe they were going with "[e]N comes after [e]M alphabetically?"

Here's where the service was named:

https://github.com/joshuaboniface/Emby/issues/2

[-] PokerChips@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago

Good explanation. I'd say that's still a lot of processing for our noggins to quickly adapt to a framework of mind to comprehend all that to make sense of it.

I still like the name and it does make since after it's all spelled out.

[-] ieGod@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

Agreed on all counts.

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