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[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 weeks ago

Venezuela borders Brazil, which has deep-sea ports itself and borders Peru, which is getting its own mega-port. Technically, a line down to the Rio Negro River would be sufficient on the Brazil side; Might require dredging in some spots, but its average depth is more than deep enough for the largest tanker-ships, and its wide-enough to fit more than a dozen-abreast.

The US is playing a stupid, stupid game. Committing acts of terrorism and piracy on the high-seas. I don't want the Amazon contaminated, but should it happen, its not Venezuela or Brazil to blame.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

it's not that brazil CAN'T trade oil with venezuela; it's that it will take more time than they have before the war starts to trade in this way.

[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That's why escorting the tankers is a bad idea. Delay the war by whatever means possible until the US Navy's interference, at least, can be rendered irrelavent.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

i doubt that they get to decide when the us navy gets to interfere.

[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago

They gotta avoid a land-and-sea open-war first. Dock everything domestic and let the buyers' ships come to them. Refuse to sell to countries that don't protect even their own ships.

The US Navy is already interfering, and I never suggest they could stop it, but rendering it in-effective/irrelavent after a certain point seems achievable from where I sit. The US hasn't won a land-war since Korea, and North Korea only really had China's backing.

Venezuela is surrounded by countries which have every reason to help them end-run US interference, and whatever excuse the US brings to the table this time, its not coming with UN, NATO, or any sort of "multi-lateral"-backing. Again, that's what the US had in Iraq and Afghanistan, and those still endeded in failure.

There's no pretending its not about oil and territory this time.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Venezuela is indeed surrounded by countries that have ever reason to help the Venezuelans end-run with US interference; but each of those countries has their own oligarchy the the US has helped gain power within the last few years and are now neutral at best to Venezuela's plight.

Brazil and Colombia are the only exceptions and the right wing is expected to take control of it soon as well.

[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 weeks ago

I wish you weren't right, and Peru isn't really bucking US influence in any meaningful fashion either. I'm afraid their mega-port may not even get built, or maybe environmentally or socio-economically that would be the better result.

I'm neither an expert nor a local to be telling them how to live. Now if only my country wasn't so certain that "expertise" and violence should rightfully override the sovereignty of others.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

I’m neither an expert nor a local to be telling them how to live.

that's not stopping the american government from telling them how to live. lol

but then again and in most cases, it's down through each country's oligarchy's mouth pieces like it's done in the united states; so it seems local enough to them like ours seems to us.

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