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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Modern Russia isn't the Soviet Union though, very far from it. It's a fascist theocracy.

[-] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

The name changed, the number of satellite republics changed. The religion really didn't change that much other than the orthodox Catholic Church being able to show back up without getting executed. The state held properties got bought up by oligarchs so that's a little different from traditional fascism where private companies are controlled by the government and vice versa. In the current case the oligarchs tremble in fear so the traditional ties between private companies and government that one finds and fascism doesn't really work in this situation. So calling it both fascist and a theocracy isn't in keeping with the traditional meaning of either word. It's like calling a Tesla a horseless carriage. A lot is different from what that originally meant.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The religion really didn't change that much other than the orthodox Catholic Church being able to show back up without getting executed.

Nonsense. The orthodox Church is as big a power in Russian politics as it was in Tsarist times. They pretty much control the social policy of Russia. For example, the draconian anti-LGBTQ+ laws are, if not religiously motivated, at the very least using religiously based arguments to justify the bigotry. That's a far fucking cry from "show up without getting executed"!

The state held properties got bought up by oligarchs so that's a little different from traditional fascism where private companies are controlled by the government and vice versa.

Nope, oligarchic capitalism is very much a pillar of modern fascism. Same in Putin's Russia as it was in Bolsonaro's Brazil.

In the current case the oligarchs tremble in fear so the traditional ties between private companies and government that one finds and fascism doesn't really work in this situation.

Couldn't be further from the truth. The oligarchs (along with the church) are the power base of Putin, gaslighting the public and keeping him in power no matter how much he abuses the people. Far from trembling in fear, they're living in a malevolent symbiosis with Putin's government.

So calling it both fascist and a theocracy isn't in keeping with the traditional meaning of either word

Yeah, it is. I've already explained the theocratic element and, other than oligarchs playing a different role, it's fascism as it always has been.

In conclusion, you're talking absolute bullshit and should really learn more about reality before you make assumptions that are completely divorced from it.

[-] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Oh. I see, you live in a reality that's 25% different. And you happen to be so rude that you can't find ways to educate anyone on anything because you are too busy insulting them for them to even take you seriously.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

No, I live in the real world and I DID just educate you. My mocking tone is entirely appropriate given your arrogant assertions of nonsense about well-known facts concerning a major world power. It's not my fault that the truth perplexes and offends you.

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