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White man faces trial in US for shooting Black teen who went to wrong house
(www.aljazeera.com)
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This is blaming a group for the actions of some individuals, which has got to be some logical fallacy.
If you want to call for no more guns have at it, but I've got to take issue with your reasoning.
There‘s a hell of a lot of “some individuals”
There are 72 million gun owners in the US.
There were 42,000 gun deaths in 2021. A slight majority were suicides.
Can y'all do the math on that one? Or is that too big an ask?
Yep, adds up to “too many gun deaths”.
Good one though
Lul, disarm the people over a rounding error as the fascists work themselves up to a civil war again, libs gonna lib.
I know this was a few days ago but this argument from a leftist pro-gun point of view is so stupid to me. If you're concerned about fascists, why do you support arming them lol?? It's just the easily rebuked good guy with a gun bad guy with a gun argument repackaged to appeal to left wing people. Muricans going Murican
They're already armed. Besides immediately triggering a civil war that push a whole bunch of "independents" to the wrong side, all it will do is disarm the sane.
That's 4x higher than car related deaths per number of car owners, and cars require a license and insurance, and doing something dangerous with one can have you lose your right to use it permanently.
Cars have the additional factor that they are practically required for living in the US, so reasonably we would be willing to accept a higher number of deaths than we would otherwise for other objects.
I agree, let's do gun licenses.
OK, now do African Americans.
Being black isn't a choice. Owning a gun is. And gun owners keep telling me how they are and need to be responsible... but never take responsibility for all the gun crime.
Most gun violence is gang/suicide/assault/robbery
The outliers that generate more outrage are the mass shooters, racists and accidents involving children
Pretty hard to take responsibility for any of those if you are not the perp
Hush, you are ruining their narrative. Don't you know statistics are racist?
Ffs, leave us out of this.
Blaming a group that is many many times more likely to kill those around them and habitually defends their hobby with gems like "What if we need to overthrow our democratically elected government?", "There is no amount of people that die due to guns that would convince me gun ownership isn't worth the cost" and some lame analogy equating guns with penises and gun homicide with rape as if that didn't write the jokes about gun owners itself. (If you're a little slow, it means a lot of you just came out and said the quiet part out loud. Some of you really do use guns to compensate for... shortcommings)
And the fact that further down, you're arguing that "only 42,000 die a year" and that most of them are suicides (as if those deaths matter less for some reason) just proves my point. Could many of you handle guns responsibly? Sure. But I dont think that tens of thousands dead a year is worth waiting to find out which ones.
i dont think everyone should have their guns taken away. i used to have a coworker, retired now, who when the topic came up of crime hed say something like "i hope someone would, id love to." to me that sounds psychopathic. someone like that might should have their guns taken away.
Well you're clearly not as smart as you think.