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Why do they turn Federation into a dystopia? (feddit.org)

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I just don't get it. What is the freaking problem of those directors, trying to rewrite federation into some kind of dystopian tech fascism?

I was annoyed by the first Star Trek movie by JJ Abrams, with those police cops. I was alienated by those anti-android resentments in Picard. I stopped watching Discovery after the first episode, because the main protagonist was sent to some kind of labor prison for disobedience, where prisoners regularly die. I didn't think it could get any worse but just watching the first 10 minutes of Starfleet Academy makes me want to bury the whole franchise [edit: and stopped watching]. Some drumhead court-martial, lifelong prison sentence, violently separating a mother from her child and some goons beating up a prisoner. How in the hell is this the same federation of TNG, Voyager and DS9?

Star Trek is supposed to be the ONE fiction with a positive, utopian view on mankind and the future. I totally get the attraction of dystopian settings but for that I can read some Warhammer 40k novels. This really makes me furious.

Fortunately there is still Strange New Worlds.

Please spoiler me, when this bullshit in Starfleet Academy gets turned around in some twist, because otherwise I will just ignore the show.

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[-] kboos1@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

So your argument is that you can't have a utopia if you can inherit your parents belongings?

I would also argue that the accumulation of goods and hoarding resources would not be tolerated. So if you're rich before the fall you're probably not now. But my assumption is that if you can justify owning lots of land by something other than greed then you probably won't keep/get it.

Yes land would be a finite resource and would be closely regulated.

Star Trek is a dream that will never come true because it assumes that all humans would be rational and reasonable. That's just inconceivable.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

So your argument is that you can’t have a utopia if you can inherit your parents belongings?

I'm saying if one vineyard has been in the same family for a thousand years...

Anyone who says everything is fair and equal doesn't know what they're talking about.

It's not a utopia because it's not a classless society.

It's what modern day oligarchs would call a utopia.

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