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Is there a new "default"platform everyone is moving to? I'm kind of surprised there isn't an open source discord clone that comes with e2e encryption. I'm not tech savvy enough to understand the challenges involved I'm sure.
You're probably right. The only reason I would want that is because there are always leaks and data harvesting
The obvious alternative would be Jami
I've seen Stoat thrown around, I think the best swap right now is to matrix though.
Yeah I've tried both. Stoat looks good and seems like the best option for similar organization but matrix seems better in terms of privacy. If matrix wasn't so clumsy it would be hands down the best option.
It is so fucking clumsy. I hate it.
A friend recently sent me this there seem to be plenty to try out
This is false. For Stoat voice is not available to self hosted still, and the primary channel is not available.
I've tried most of these. A lot seem more geared towards slack alternatives or more like work chat type things. Voice chat is critical and some lack it or have it tacked on. Teamspeak is the opposite which text chat is tacked on. The closest alts right now are stoat, fluxer and root. Fluxer and stoat and open source, root is VC funded. I'm pushing for fluxer personally. But he is getting hug of death at the moment.
Fluxer seems pretty good.
No. Matrix is totally not the same vibe.
Stoat is great, but they need to release voice to self hosted still.
I've been using Element for a bit and IMHO it's a pretty similar vibe
My money's on fluxer. I got a good vibe with him.
Ehhh
River on FreeNet has more potential to be what people actually need if people actually develop for it
Don't get me wrong I've set up shop on all of the alternatives I have found so far but they're frankly all.... Meh. That includes Fluxer
Something about Fluxer's communications so far gives me hibijibis though I'm unable to put my finger on why exactly. I'm getting Guilded.gg vibes for whatever reason