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[-] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

So you have two groups of ten experiments, mean if group A is 100, mean of group B is 105, variance is 25 (for both groups). Obviously we are not confident that these groups differ.

Now suppose we repeat the experiment two billion times. The group A average is now 99, and the group B average is now 103. The variance is still 25. Are you still not confident that the groups are different?

[-] Cattail@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

I'd be curious what constitution a group a versus a group b and how you get 2 billion of them.

But I'll interpret it as sperm on a race track since you can get 2 billion runs with one nut.

I have to say after billion trials the averages that you calculate did come from random sample, but it would be indicative average for that group since it can't move far from that calculated average.

I'm visualizing the 2 billion points of both groups and seeing a bell curve with a lot of overlap. I guess they would be different, but overall very similar since the variance is pretty wide.

[-] FishFace@piefed.social 1 points 10 hours ago

Right. But that's what p-values quantify: given the number of trials and the observed variance and means, how likely is it that the two groups are drawn from the same distribution versus actually having different means?

So variance isn't "more important" than p-values; high variance means that (by definition) your p-value is lower (less confident) than it otherwise would be.

[-] Cattail@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

So I looked into the definition of P and it can depend on variance if you assume gaussian distribution.

I wouldn't know how you would get a P value for 2 different distribution with similar means. I can come up with the null hypothesis being that group a and group b are the same, but then idk how to relate that to a probability of given mean and variance of A is B.

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