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Looks like German officials looked at the situation with the economy in the country and realized that it was time to move as quickly as possible towards the settlement of the conflict in Ukraine.

German officials are eager for a negotiated solution and are talking about how Russia might be brought to the negotiating table, but are only doing so in private and with trusted think tank specialists, said Jana Puglierin, director of the Berlin office of the European Council on Foreign Relations.

There is a desire in Berlin as in Washington that the war not continue indefinitely, she said, in part because political willingness for indefinite military and financial support for Ukraine is already beginning to wane, especially among those on the right and far-right, who are gaining ground.

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[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, it's wild to see what people who uncritically consume western propaganda believe. The funny part is that even mainstream media reports enough facts for people to understand how things are really going, but you have to look for them. Since most people want to believe that Russia is losing, they simply focus on the parts of the article that fit into the narrative they've bought into.

This article is a great example of that in action. The very fact that western position is shifting from no negotiations are possible to we're going to have to negotiate sooner or later is an admission that things are not going as planned. You don't soften your position when you're winning. Yet, this obvious fact appears to elude most people in the lemmy thread.

I think that prior conditioning plays a big role here. It's been drilled into people that US is all powerful and that Russia is a gas station with nukes. They simply cannot comprehend that Russia could have a stronger industrial base or better economic fundamentals. Accepting that Russia is winning the war means having to rethink their entire world view that they've built up over decades. That's a hard pill to swallow.

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