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A reminder that as the US continues to threaten countries around the world, fedposting is to be very much avoided (even with qualifiers like "in Minecraft") and comments containing it will be removed.

Image is of a Quds Day march in Bandar Abbas, Iran.


It now seems likely that, very soon, the US and the Zionists will attempt to bomb Iran. Compared to the buildup to the Iraq War, the stated goals of such a move are being kept a little more generalized - some say the point is to overthrow the government for "humanitarian" purposes (others are more honest and want to partition Iran into a dozen powerless statelets). Some people instead say the point is to get rid of the ballistic missile program, which is synonymous with outright surrender, as no matter the deal, bombers would be en route within 10 minutes of the last batch being handed over.

Still others say that the goal is to destroy the Iranian nuclear program, which, as the thread title implies, is now in a bizarre propaganda superposition: it is apparently simultaneously true to the Trump administration that the US obliterated the nuclear facilities and set back Iran's nuclear program years, if not decades, but also that Iran is mere days away from finishing a nuke and a new round of bombing is urgently required. This obviously casts newfound doubts on how effective US weapons even are at penetrating Iran's underground facilities (though it doesn't necessarily mean they didn't breach them, as Iran was almost certainly moving nuclear material out of Fordow and other sites in the days before the Twelve Day War). The sheer quantity of US anti-air defense equipment they're shifting into position also casts doubts on whether Iran's air defense was mostly destroyed during that conflict, as those who assert that the Zionists had total air supremacy over Iran seem to be implying.

I'm not a military guy, and so I have no novel insights on how such a war is likely to go, nor do I feel confident predicting either side's victory. I'm looking at most of the same sources that you're all looking at. Some confidently boast of the total destruction of Iran's air defense within hours, allowing US planes to fly directly over Iranian cities and drop bombs en masse; others cast doubts on whether this will ever occur, and say that the US's limited supply of Tomahawk missiles is the only major firepower they will be able to safely unleash. Some say this war will last mere days before state collapse; others say months, maybe even years. I have no idea.

I do at least feel somewhat bolstered by the fact that Russia and China finally appear to be pouring in meaningful information and matériel to help Iran this time around, though of course, one can still debate whether it's enough. I feel like we are at the culmination of decades of war planning by both the US and Iran, and the result could have deep ramifications indeed.


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Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
Simplicius, who publishes on Substack. Like others, his political analysis should be soundly ignored, but his knowledge of weaponry and military strategy is generally quite good.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] Metabola@hexbear.net 74 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Iran nears deal to buy supersonic anti-ship missiles from China - Reuters

The CM-302 purchase would be a significant improvement in an Iranian arsenal depleted by last year’s war, said Pieter Wezeman, a senior researcher at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.

China’s state-owned China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC) markets the CM-302 as the world’s best anti-ship missile, capable of sinking an aircraft carrier or destroyer. The weapons system can be mounted on ships, aircraft or mobile ground vehicles. It can also take out targets on land.

CASIC did not respond to a request for comment.

Iran is also in discussions to acquire Chinese surface‑to‑air missile systems, so-called MANPADS, anti‑ballistic weapons, and anti-satellite weapons, the six people said.

CM-302 is the export variant of the YJ-12

[-] miz@hexbear.net 53 points 3 months ago

the best time to do this was twenty years ago, the second best time is now

[-] oliveoil@hexbear.net 38 points 3 months ago

Twenty years ago, Iran was under a weapons embargo that the UNSC (including China) signed onto.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

thanks. when did that end, when Trump backed out of the JCPOA or earlier?

[-] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago

The UN Security Council weapons embargo is still in effect. Hence "nearing a deal", not "delivered".

[-] oliveoil@hexbear.net 25 points 3 months ago

IIRC it expired a few years ago, and China and Russia did not renew it, but US and friends pretended that it was still valid because they say so.

[-] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's built into the snapback sanctions that were reapplied late last year, it's not something that can be renewed, China and Russia already agreed to this long ago. China and Russia can of course choose not to comply with snapback in various ways if they wish, and have made statements alluding to that. But any serious non compliance, like supplying Iran advanced air defence systems and anti ship missiles, would be quite something.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

okay well I'm not sure why it matters then, they could have "neared a deal" twenty years ago too

[-] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago

Probably because China is closer than ever to breaking the embargo.

Though I agree it's too little too late, given the advanced stage of the US military buildup.

[-] CredibleBattery@hexbear.net 48 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Chinese surface‑to‑air missile systems

sicko-wholesome

, so-called MANPADS

sicko-no

sicko-wistful

they're not taking this seriously

[-] tocopherol@hexbear.net 41 points 3 months ago

They list other things after, those might be separate nouns, they could mean both missile platforms and MANPADS

[-] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 37 points 3 months ago

Yeah I think this is the case, because it goes

Chinese surface‑to‑air missile systems, so-called MANPADS, anti‑ballistic weapons, and anti-satellite weapons,

If MANPADS was connected to the "missile systems" in that list, they'd write it like

Chinese surface‑to‑air missile systems (so-called MANPADS), anti‑ballistic weapons, and anti-satellite weapons,

for clarity.

[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 months ago

MANPADS are "man" portable air defence. Think FIM-92 or the FN-6. Basically shoulder launched air defence missiles.

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