22
submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by Salamence@lemmy.zip to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

Dbzero Governance Vote Post https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63525728

Ahoy mateys!

A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.

But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. ....

More context

Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.

As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again. ...

Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead.

In the end the Post had around 70% of support by dbzer0 users, who in the comments also called for defederation.

Here is a Link to Dbzer0 instances tab https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances where if you go to blocked instances you can see fedddit.org is now defederated

i dont think feddit has made a post now, but when they do i will add it

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 15 points 3 months ago

Its such an empty criticism when they federate with the ml instances.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't get it. Huh? I find sentiment on .ml extremely anti-Zionist.

[-] pilferjinx@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago

They're pretty anti zionist. Only because Israel represents the west in all its brutality. They fully support the Russian invasion and genocide of Ukraine though, hence the hypocrisy.

[-] comfy@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They fully support the Russian invasion

wut? Even lemmygrad.ml doesn't - their support of the Russian Federation's invasion has always been critical, not full. Just like their support for Hamas is critical - it's extremely obvious that neither the capitalist-run RF nor the Islamist Hamas are groups they agree with at all.

(I am not a campist, I'm simply explaining the campist concept of critical support)

[-] Loco_Mex@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

So critical that we never ever hear them criticize Russia for it.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago

So critical you'll be instantly banned for saying anything critical of Russian imperialism.

load more comments (20 replies)
[-] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

I think they're talking about stuff like the holodomor or the uyghurs in china.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] neatchee@piefed.social 0 points 3 months ago

they didn't say it was hypocritical, just empty criticism. They are implying that ml instances are no less egregious about the types of bad content they allow, even if the content itself is different

[-] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

They are implying that ml instances are no less egregious about the types of bad content they allow, even if the content itself is different

They are wrong.

[-] hobovision@mander.xyz 0 points 3 months ago

You might be a little biased.

[-] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

Unlike yourself and that other user, who are simply neutral observers? lmao

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social -1 points 3 months ago

"B-b-but my side virtuous (in all ways, and can do no wrong), while their side ignoramus (everything they do is because they are poopy-heads)!"

I wish I could add /s here but a good half the population on earth seems to hold to this as an invariant position, solidarity in the face of all obstacles, i.e. the Nazi bar effect.

Case in point: who doesn't love it when a religious institution offers food and shelter and medical care to the needy, or counsels people to forgive, laying down their burdens and seek therapy to thereby travel lighter through the world? It is the diddling kids part that for some strange reason (/s on this one) people tend to get upset?

Since we were talking about Zionism here, I will mention that Deuteronomy 13:5 (in the Torah, part of the Old Testament for Christian and Muslim and offshoot religious branches such as Mormonism) provides an EXTREMELY stern warning about those who would misuse their authority to lead people astray.

TLDR: intolerance paradox - if you tolerate the intolerant, it corrupts the entire system, giving it a bad reputation when people see the worst excesses and extrapolate that to infer the properties of the whole. e.g. Reddit is fascist, hence we did not stay and put up with it but rather moved here.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

Lemmy.ml, Hexbear.net, and Lemmygrad.ml are all extremely anti-Zionist. Further, dbzer0 defederated from Lemmygrad.ml, and is only federated with Lemmy.ml and Hexbear.net. What are you trying to say?

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 3 months ago

Nobody would ever accuse you people of defending Jews so it can't be that you are Zionists. Its about the simping for authoritarian regimes.

[-] agentant@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Idk where you got that those sites don't defend Jews. I feel very supported in those places, and the moderation on Hexbear at least takes antisemitism seriously(I can't say for the other two because I'm on there less often, but I'm yet to hear anything that would make me doubt that they defend their Jewish users as well)

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 3 months ago

You're on a .ml account so I'm by default assuming you're untrustworthy. If you cant see why anyone might get that then you might be blind. I'm sure I could go dig up some examples but then you'd have won by wasting my time proving something that is already obvious.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

Communists absolutely defend Jewish peoples, Zionism is anti-semitic, especially anti-Yiddish. We also don't "simp for authoritarian regimes," we support socialist systems where the working classes hold the authority in society, rather than capitalists. None of this is "simping," I support worker-run structures because it's more equitable and democratic.

[-] Shatur@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

we support socialist systems where the working classes hold the authority in society, rather than capitalists.

I feel like, despite this being explained every time, people still think "dictatorship of the proletariat" is a bad thing because of the word "dictatorship"...

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 3 months ago

No its because this person is lying. They dont honestly believe in a worker run democracy. Its just a palatable phrase they use to appear less extreme.

They support a political class with total control benevolently dishing out to the working population.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Nope, not what I believe at all, and the fact that you have to invent my beliefs proves you can't actually argue against my real ones.

[-] FranklyIGiveADarn@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Does the NZ in your username stand for NaZi? Fucc off colonizer

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

feels like brexit in that they will no longer have influence or discussion with their sworn enemies

they will just circle jerk on their marxist island

[-] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago
[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It just shows how some people know jack shit and still throw their opinions around LMAO

[-] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

This thread in a nutshell, lmao.

[-] Riverside@reddthat.com -1 points 3 months ago

"People supporting "Israel", the Zionist entity enacting genocide on Palestinians, are identical to people supporting the USSR, which eliminated Nazism and saved tens of millions of lives from extermination"

[-] Loco_Mex@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

“People supporting “Israel”, the Zionist entity enacting genocide on Palestinians, are identical to “People supporting “Russia”, the Fascist entity enacting genocide on Ukranians

In no way shape or form Ukraine is a genocide. By using that term for both Palestine and Ukraine you are just demeaning the word, and actually helping the propaganda against Palestine.

Ukraine is defending its sovereignty, and it is experiencing a national aggression by Russia, but what Israel is doing to Gaza is in a different sphere.

[-] Loco_Mex@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

What Russia is doing:

Tens of thousands of children are being abducted, stripped of their identity, and taught to hate their homeland
https://thewalrus.ca/ukrainian-children/

Definition of Genocide:

Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition

load more comments (8 replies)
[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 3 months ago

Nice try but the USSR sided with the Nazis remember. They dont get any credit.

load more comments (3 replies)
this post was submitted on 19 Feb 2026
22 points (89.3% liked)

Fediverse

42191 readers
23 users here now

A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it's related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, Mbin, etc).

If you wanted to get help with moderating your own community then head over to !moderators@lemmy.world!

Rules

Learn more at these websites: Join The Fediverse Wiki, Fediverse.info, Wikipedia Page, The Federation Info (Stats), FediDB (Stats), Sub Rehab (Reddit Migration)

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS