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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by ell1e@leminal.space to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Firefox is trying to gain back user trust with this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=O-xyNkvIB9g

This is a legit question: Should anybody trust Firefox again unless they put "we won't sell your data" back into the privacy policy? I'm actually not sure if they haven't already done so, let me elaborate:

https://brave.com/privacy/browser/ Brave: "We do not sell, trade, or transfer your information to any third parties." This seems to obviously be in the legally binding text part. As is this one: "It’s Brave’s policy to not collect personal data1 unless it’s necessary to provide services to our users, or to meet certain legal obligations. We do not buy or sell personal data about consumers." (Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer.)

However, for Firefox it seems ambiguous to me, which worries me: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/#notice There is no appearance of "sell" in the entire privacy document, excpet for the top summary where i'm not sure if it's at all legally non-binding.

Does anybody know if it is legally binding? If Mozilla were serious about it, why would they leave it ambiguous whether it is...?

Based on that, I'm not sure if Mozilla's video about getting users back is worth trusting. I wonder if it's just me.

Update for clarification: I'm not using Brave myself, and this isn't a suggestion anybody should blindly do so.

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago

Use a Firefox fork that respects you

[-] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That'll eventually die the same way Firefox does because forks only survive by way of subsidized capabilities off of the work of the Firefox engineering team.

There is no winning here.

[-] ell1e@leminal.space 1 points 9 hours ago

My personal hope is if Firefox ever dies that the LibreWolf team will just use Chromium as a base instead. I'll go wherever the LibreWolf team does.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

i'm going to be one of the last holdouts; refusing to switch to a chromium based browser. lol

[-] hobata@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 day ago

Can you suggest one? Obvious it's not LibreWolf due to lack of respect.

[-] pogmommy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago
[-] hobata@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

They broke saving passwords workflow and disabled that popup to do it.

[-] Lumelore@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

You can turn it on in settings. I use it and it works fine.

[-] hobata@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago
[-] Lumelore@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

I use the latest version. I also have resist fingerprinting disabled and sync enabled. It's been a while so I don't quite remember but I think one or both of those might be required for it to work. I know resist fingerprinting disables a lot of stuff so for convenience I disable it and instead use a JS blocker.

[-] hobata@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Unfortunately, you're statement from before is wrong. Saving passwords is still broken. I just double-checked it Librewolf on the latest 148.0.2.2 version. By saving password I mean the "Ask to save passwords" in Private & Security settings. Librewolf completely ignores it. Librewolf folks do some very stupid UI things with their fork.

[-] Lumelore@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 hours ago

That's strange. I just tested it on my machine and it is still working so there must be something weird going on that makes it only work for some people. I am using Debian and have it installed with extrepo, perhaps it is an issue with a specific release?

[-] hobata@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

You're really sure that you get this popup?

If so, can you pin down the exact version you use and the source you get it from? I think the last Librewolf that had rememberSignons working was 134.

[-] Lumelore@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 hours ago

I am using 148.0.2-2. It appears as a little key icon in the address bar and you have to click on it to open it.

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