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Image is of a Khorramshahr-4 medium range ballistic missile, which has a range of about 2000km.


As I said in the last megathread, trying to figure out what exactly is happening is becoming ever more difficult. The gist of things is that Iran has, very justifiably, refused to negotiate (assassinating their leader and striking their country with hundreds of missiles in the middle of negotiations causes some reluctance to return to the table, I suppose). Censorship across the Middle East has further ramped up, with reportedly extreme punishments for posting footage of Iranian strikes online. From what I can gather, Iran's number of strikes have stabilized at a comfortable daily rate, with strikes into both the Gulf monarchies and Occupied Palestine continuing apace. Official charts of these strikes over time seem very disconnected from reality on the ground, but again, it's hard to really get at the specifics.

The messaging on how long the war is expected to last is rather muddled on both sides. The Trump administration fluctuates more than daily - and even sometimes in the same speech - on whether the war is already won or whether it's going to last months longer. The US seems to be coming up a new possible scheme every few hours: a ground invasion with the Kurds? A ground invasion without the Kurds? An amphibious assault? A series of commando operations to steal Iranian uranium? A massive parachuting operation into Tehran? Fuck it, let's just send the Navy into the Strait of Hormuz? There doesn't seem to be a coherent plan for continuing hostilities beyond firing more and more of a limited stockpile of cruise missiles into mostly non-military targets, hitting easily replaceable drone and missile launchers with a limited stockpile of drones, and burning a limited stockpile of interceptors at an astounding rate (and, in the process, disarming every other Western-aligned country of their interceptors).

Meanwhile, from Iran, I've seen rumors and reports from classic anonymous "senior IRGC officials" (no doubt some invented by Zionists to sow confusion), that I don't know how to substantiate, ranging anywhere from "If the US pulls back their forces now, we will restart negotiations," to "It doesn't matter what the US or the Zionists do or say, we aren't stopping until every last trace of Zionism in the Middle East has been extinguished," to a few positions in between those poles. Despite the damage to infrastructure in Iran, it doesn't seem like there has been any political or social fracturing. Not to speak too soon - perhaps the West will start earnestly trying to overfly Iranian territory to drop their very plentiful bombs soon - but every indication is that there will be no regime change nor societal collapse in Iran in the short and medium term.

The US is desperately trying - and mostly failing - to keep a lid on the economic firestorm they have ignited. There has been much ado about oil prices and oil futures and indexes and what all the myriad Lines going up and down signify and things like that, which is befitting such a financialized empire which is so disconnected from the actual physical flows of materials and much more attuned to vibes and speeches. The only thing I'm personally paying much attention to on the economic front is the drones and missiles slamming into fossil fuel infrastructure, the Hormuz blockade, and the resulting global shockwave of shortages, stoppages, closures, bankruptcies, and force majeures spreading out from the epicenter that is Iran.


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[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 78 points 1 month ago

https://xcancel.com/MatthewPHoh/status/2032876808278806546

Sending the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) from Okinawa to the Arabian Sea, 2 weeks AFTER beginning the war, says several things to me:

  • US leaders and planners didn’t think this war would last this long. Lots of other evidence for this, but not having a MEU available when the US traditionally has a MEU in both the Mediterranean Sea and Persian Gulf/Arabian Sea shows astonishing US hubris, incompetence and fantastical thinking.
  • that out of 10 MEUs the US Marine Corps fields, the only available MEU is the only one that is dedicated to East Asia, shows how over extended the US military is. This should deepen discussion on the doubtfulness of the US military to sustain a campaign of intense magnitude against Iran, i.e. fight a real and total war. The only other MEU at sea, afloat since August, was originally assigned to the Mediterranean but was sent to the Caribbean to take part in the Maduro kidnapping, where it still is. Not that that MEU could have sailed past the Houthis who control the Red Sea anyway…
  • moving the 31st MEU from Asia, like the air defense systems being moved out of South Korea, demonstrates that the fear mongering over China these last decades is, at best, non-urgent, but more likely exaggerated and insincere. As every subject nation within the American empire should be realizing these last several years, their concerns and interests are far from the interests and concerns of Washington DC. In the hierarchy of US vassal states there is a large gap between Israel and everyone else.
  • there are 175,000 Marines, 300 ships in the Navy and $1 trillion defense budget, but in the largest military campaign since President Obama escalated the war in Afghanistan 17 years ago the US is unable to have 2000 Marines on 3 ships in the region.
  • commentators on X, social media and cable news who are talking about this MEU as being able to take and hold ground simply don’t know what they are talking about. It’s possible for the MEU to take oil platforms or seize small and isolated islands and strips of land, but forced entry, akin to the battle of Tarawa, is simply something the modern MEU cannot do. The MEU is very good for things like reinforcing or evacuating an embassy, reinforcing friendly forces already present someplace, supporting commando missions and raids, or boarding or seizing ships. I think this last mission may be one of its missions as the US tries to block Iranian oil shipments that are leaving the Gulf.
  • of the 2000 Marines on a MEU, less than half are fighting forces, the rest are logistics personnel or support the helicopter and F-35 detachment. With regards to the F-35s that are aboard, there are normally only 6 planes and they are limited with the amount of ordinance they can carry as well as fuel, because of the nature of taking off from a smaller flight deck. These 6 F-35s stationed on the MEU don’t really add too much to the overall air capability of the US and Israel already present.
  • I don’t see any way that the MEU can go through the Straits of Hormuz and assault Kharq Island as I’ve heard on cable news today. An air assault with Marines from the MEU would only put a couple hundred marines on Kharq Island and very far from any replenishment, support, reinforcement, medevac, etc. That’s not saying the US military wouldn’t do something so reckless and stupid…
[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Given that Trump adores the feeling that he's deceived his enemies (see: the beginning of the Twelve Days War last year, and the Venezuela raid) even if they actually haven't been deceived at all, my prediction is that they aren't going to use the Marines to try and take Kharg (they may try and use them elsewhere) but instead they'll go "We are very smart and savvy operators; those stupid Iranians are distracted by the MEU ship, but what we're ACTUALLY gonna do is parachute a bunch of troops onto the island!" and try and take the island within the next couple days with that airdropped force. given that the US did not destroy the oil infrastructure on it, and that Iran made a point of saying that their air defenses on the island were stashed away during the strikes and then reactivated shortly after, I think this indicates that Iran knows that this is the plan.

for a period of, let's say 3 to 12 hours, the narrative and headlines will be "Critical Iranian territory successfully taken and held by US forces; Iranian regime caught unawares by intelligence ruse" and Trump will do one of his truthsocial diatribes saying that if the Iranians ~~make peace~~ accept their overwhelming defeat now, the US will graciously give back Kharg (as part of the whole "Make Iran Great Again" narrative thing). the oil infrastructure is not being destroyed precisely so it retains its ability to be used as a bargaining chip - otherwise, Iran would have little reason to want to make peace and regain it.

then the drones and short range missiles and artillery will start hitting, it'll be a bloodbath for a while but covered up with "3 dead and 5 wounded today on Kharg island in another unsuccessful Iranian attempt to retake Kharg" (the actual numbers will be at least 10x this) and then eventually Iran will effectively regain control but the whole thing will be memory holed by another dozen major events that took place during that time period and Trump will never mention it again

his key weakness vis a vis these sorts of deception plots is that he's unable to stop talking about the object of his desire. he's like somebody vagueposting on social media about something that happened to them - they keep dancing around the point without quite mentioning it in the hopes that somebody will ask them about it, to the point where you can infer what the plan is just from what he both is talking about and explicitly isn't talking about, like celestial objects orbiting an invisible black hole. if he and Hegseth etc just shut the fuck up about Kharg and never talked about it then it could maybe (but still very improbably) work

[-] DogThatWentGorp@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

That last part feels well put. The rhetorical equivalent of "I'm not touching you!". But like- nah President Slick- you've made a space around the shape, we can see what you're thinking about.

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago

moving the 31st MEU from Asia, like the air defense systems being moved out of South Korea, demonstrates that the fear mongering over China these last decades is, at best, non-urgent, but more likely exaggerated and insincere. As every subject nation within the American empire should be realizing these last several years, their concerns and interests are far from the interests and concerns of Washington DC. In the hierarchy of US vassal states there is a large gap between Israel and everyone else.

I don't necessarily disagree with this, but another option is that they have assessed that China won't take advantage of a temporary withdrawal from East Asia.

[-] BobDole@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Yeah, these are both important factors. It would be very funny if the PLAN started doing amphibious drills and massing landing ships.

[-] catonkatonk@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

There is a suggestion here that the intention may be to seize Iranian oil tankers. What is the possibility that those tankers start to get a Chinese escort if it comes down to it?

[-] darkcalling@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

Judging from past actions: 0%.

China does not presently have a big enough deep water navy to truly challenge the US abroad nor is it their policy to do so and draw the US into a confrontation with them.

China will issue angry words to the US about this and if anything will probably lean hard on Iran to just re-open the strait entirely. And I think Trump and the US understands that China has a strong chance of just leaning on Iran to re-open the strait so they can get their oil. That China will take a few weeks of pain at most before it gets very upset with Iran behind the scenes and uses leverage on them to get them to re-open it which will be the American condition for letting oil flow to China again.

The alternative would be China not doing this, relying on strategic stockpile of oil and either doing nothing or trying to route weapons to Iran as punishment for the US doing this. That would the maximum I think they would do. They could also try economic leverage/sanctions on the US to attempt the US to reverse course.

This may very well be Trump's off-ramp for the war. Cutting China off from oil and getting them to lean heavily on Iran to stop the attacks and sign a ceasefire with the US that doesn't meet any of their demands. I hope China doesn't go for it and Iran doesn't either but it could very well happen and this whole thing turns into an aborted nothing-burger that is obviously a failure for Trump but doesn't destroy the empire or its economy as hoped.

There's also other possibilities like they leave Chinese tankers alone due to some private agreement or an aversion to antagonizing them and instead start seizing tankers bound for India, for the global south, for Europe, etc under some pretext. I keep thinking of how the west is unwilling to commit to a land invasion but if they successfully prevent Iran from carrying out exemptions then maybe India, Europe, the global south suffering under an oil blockade will all commit first economic and diplomatic pressure on Iran to remove the blockade and then maybe troops from some of them to put Iran in a kind of "you against the world" situation where Russia and China stand back tut-tutting about free trade while everyone else turns on them for destroying agriculture, consumer prices, heavy industry, etc. Basically a US move to make the rest of the world share the pain. How they'd legally justify doing this and stopping ships from their gulf proxies who are not Iran I'm not sure.

[-] MrPiss@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Cutting China off from oil and getting them to lean heavily on Iran to stop the attacks and sign a ceasefire with the US that doesn't meet any of their demands.

China does not have that level of influence with Iran. Even if China did have that level of influence, Iran has been laser focused on their own sovereignty since the revolution against the shah.

No country can influence Iran to end the blockade and the war except for the Iranians themselves. What could any country do to influence a country that is almost entirely isolated from the international community? What? Are they going to sanction Iran?

[-] jack@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

They could lean

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