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[-] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

This will only affect poor countries. Rich, industrialized countries have more than enough capacity to make or buy their own fertilizer. Yes prices will go up again, but it's an economics issue, not anything close to an existential threat. There is simply more than enough calorie production for everyone even with strong perturbations in global shipping. Fertilizer is only a marginal use for methane in terms of volume.

If you live in a poor country however, things are a lot more dire. The price of fertilizer is indexed on the price of gas, of which there is still enough for everyone; but your country will be competing with AI datacenters for the fucking stuff which means millions will have to die so Musk can continue to jerk it to AI child porn.

It's not a gas pricing issue, it's a wealth hoarding issue compounded by the aimless crusade of a demented manlet commanded by religious fanatics.

[-] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This will only affect poor countries.

This is a remarkably ignorant statement. Gas in Canada has skyrocketed over 40 cents in the last week. Diesel nearly twice as much. This will absolutely affect grocery prices. I'm a local truck driver for Dairy Farmers of Canada and the fuel prices will limit transportation of goods and we will see not just fuel prices rise but grocery prices across the entire store because of how expensive it is to transport anything now.

I live in Canada and we have a surplus of fertilizer and we supply dozens of nations with it. Guess how much it's gonna cost to transport it even nationally?

If you don't think this will have a catastrophic rippling effect across dozens of industries and factors, you're completely hopeless. Lumber will cost more for construction projects. Food will cost more. It will cost you more to mail a package to a friend. Everything will go up because of this. This is a seismic global economic shift and it's all because the USA elected the dumbest fucking person to lead the USA.

[-] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Oh boohoo. Chocolate will be more expensive for westerners. Cry me a river.

What the discussion was centered on is famine. Actual famine. Which will only affect poor countries and will kill millions. Whether or not individual Canadians stockpile grains in their basement (OP's actual suggestion) has literally no bearing on anyone's food security.

I'm sorry but I just can't equate the economic struggle of a few more percent of inflation for mostly middle-class westerners with that of Global South subsistence farmers who are actually going to have to find out how far they can stretch out a grain silo or a fertilizer bag.

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