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[-] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 8 points 5 days ago

I understand the mindset, but civilization hinges on working together. Being resilient enough to survive on your own is rarely going to involve growing some significant portion of your own calories for an urban population. Being handy will certainly help in general, and having a method to repel bad actors are useful in a complete collapse, but relying on gasoline powered vehicles doesn't make sense if you think society is going to fail.

[-] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

That's the thing, they didn't think society was going to fail, even though they'd been through the depression, a world war, the oil crisis, blizzards etc and it never came to that. They weren't the only ones either, they were essentially in a suburb and they knew their neighbors well

[-] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 2 points 5 days ago

What I'm saying is, either civilization is going to fail or it isn't. If it is, urban centers are going to collapse and a lot of people are going to die and most gasoline cars will be useless in a couple years. If it isn't, utilizing the frameworks of civilization to handle disasters will be as effective as anything else we can do, hence no need for extreme resilience (growing you own food, canning, making your own clothing) or rugged individualism.

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